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BW23 wrote:I still think it's too early to deem the Edmonds contract a bad one.
He's going to really have to make up for it this year...

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Michael wrote:If Dewitt thought the Edmonds deal was a good idea then we should all be very worried about the Cards future.
Well, if Dewitt has been "very hands on" since the time he got here, then maybe we shouldn't be worried as we've had a ton of success.

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Secret Weapon wrote:
Michael wrote:If Dewitt thought the Edmonds deal was a good idea then we should all be very worried about the Cards future.
Well, if Dewitt has been "very hands on" since the time he got here, then maybe we shouldn't be worried as we've had a ton of success.

That's a good point. If you think that Dewitt has been "too involved", then you've got to give him credit for much of the success.

If you think he hasn't been too involved, then there's no problem, right?

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Socnorb11 wrote:
Secret Weapon wrote:
Michael wrote:If Dewitt thought the Edmonds deal was a good idea then we should all be very worried about the Cards future.
Well, if Dewitt has been "very hands on" since the time he got here, then maybe we shouldn't be worried as we've had a ton of success.

That's a good point. If you think that Dewitt has been "too involved", then you've got to give him credit for much of the success.

If you think he hasn't been too involved, then there's no problem, right?
The concern is that he's been involved when things have gone bad and not involved when things have gone good. That sounds like a certain group's description of the winningest manager in the last fifty years though. Maybe the Bonilla story can be replaced with the Jayhawk League story.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/14/sport ... ref=slogin
It would be no surprise if Jocketty became the Orioles’ general manager.

Jocketty’s ouster is the most surprising departure, and the hiring of Wade and Huntington the most surprising arrivals.

In 13 years under Jocketty, the Cardinals reached the playoffs seven times and won the World Series once. That Series conquest made his departure all the more curious because it came only a year later.

Jocketty, 56, said he wasn’t the victim of a power struggle, but was caught in a difference in strategic approach to building the team. Bill DeWitt Jr., the managing partner, sided with the vice president for player development and amateur scouting, Jeff Luhnow.

“It was probably more philosophical differences over the direction they wanted to take the club that I wasn’t necessarily comfortable with,” Jocketty said. “He wanted to do things that were different from my philosophy. We felt the best way to resolve it was to go our separate ways.”

The schism between Jocketty and DeWitt epitomizes the debate in baseball that has raged with increasing passion and disagreement: the traditional method of building a club (scouting) versus the newer method of statistical analysis, the player procurement method popularized in the book “Moneyball.”

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