Musing on a Cub-Card trade.
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Musing on a Cub-Card trade.
Reading NSBB, the Cub's greatest need is a LH power bat.
Just as a curiosity would you trade Duncan and Reyes for Marshall and Murton? Seems to me like a trade that would benefit both teams. Marshall probably projects as a better ML SP at this point than Reyes, Murton is a RH OF who plays defense a bit better than Duncan.
Just as a curiosity would you trade Duncan and Reyes for Marshall and Murton? Seems to me like a trade that would benefit both teams. Marshall probably projects as a better ML SP at this point than Reyes, Murton is a RH OF who plays defense a bit better than Duncan.
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Re: Musing on a Cub-Card trade.
Uh, hell no.
Duncan > Murton.
Marshall is better than Reyes, but he is not that good and is a back-of-the-rotation starter.
It's not so much that I think highly of Duncan so much as it is that I think Marshall is a guy with little upside.
Duncan > Murton.
Marshall is better than Reyes, but he is not that good and is a back-of-the-rotation starter.
It's not so much that I think highly of Duncan so much as it is that I think Marshall is a guy with little upside.
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Re: Musing on a Cub-Card trade.
I don't know, if Marshall is a reliable #4 and Reyes is really a 4A we come out ahead.Kyle wrote:Uh, hell no.
Duncan > Murton.
Marshall is better than Reyes, but he is not that good and is a back-of-the-rotation starter.
It's not so much that I think highly of Duncan so much as it is that I think Marshall is a guy with little upside.
Murton 2007- 235 AB .281 .352 .438 .791
Duncan 2007- 375 AB .259 .354 .480 .834
#4 SP carry a hefty price tag. I guess it depends on your opinion of Reyes (or the perceived opinion of other teams GM's)
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Re: Musing on a Cub-Card trade.
That's not a bad trade, IMO. I might overvalue Murton, but he's better defensively than Dunc and I think would be pretty good in the #2 slot (we still need someone to hit leadoff). I also think that Marshall could be a #3 starter on a decent team.
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Re: Musing on a Cub-Card trade.
Duncan's bad defensively, but Murton's probably not a whole lot better. Not to pick on you HJ, and I've said it before, but I also don't think we need to target anyone because of where they hit in the lineup. I've been hearing that a lot lately with Eckstein leaving.
I wouldn't make this trade, and the Cubs need Marshall, Murton, Pie, Patterson, Hill, Marmol, Quade and Dempster to package for some Hall of Famer coming from a team with 19 open roster spots.
I wouldn't make this trade, and the Cubs need Marshall, Murton, Pie, Patterson, Hill, Marmol, Quade and Dempster to package for some Hall of Famer coming from a team with 19 open roster spots.
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Re: Musing on a Cub-Card trade.
What is it exactly that makes Anthony Reyes (1.35 career WHIP) a AAAA starter and Sean Marshall (1.45 career WHIP) a #3-4 starter?
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Re: Musing on a Cub-Card trade.
Duncan's stats are adversely skewed by his hernia. He claims that it had been affecting him for around two months (not including mid-late September). This is consistent with his first / second half splits:picasso wrote:I don't know, if Marshall is a reliable #4 and Reyes is really a 4A we come out ahead.Kyle wrote:Uh, hell no.
Duncan > Murton.
Marshall is better than Reyes, but he is not that good and is a back-of-the-rotation starter.
It's not so much that I think highly of Duncan so much as it is that I think Marshall is a guy with little upside.
Murton 2007- 235 AB .281 .352 .438 .791
Duncan 2007- 375 AB .259 .354 .480 .834
#4 SP carry a hefty price tag. I guess it depends on your opinion of Reyes (or the perceived opinion of other teams GM's)
.288 / .380 / .547 / .927
.209 / .311 / .367 / .677
Take a look at his game log from about late July on (here). He turned into nothing short of a black hole offensively (absolutely zero power). While this could be a slump or the league catching up with him or whatever you want to believe, you have to figure that, to some extent, the injury was taking its toll.
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Re: Musing on a Cub-Card trade.
This is a great point, Kyle. I know there are several Duncan nay sayers on this board, but the stats (with the hernia) can't go unquestioned.Kyle wrote:Duncan's stats are adversely skewed by his hernia. He claims that it had been affecting him for around two months (not including mid-late September). This is consistent with his first / second half splits:
.288 / .380 / .547 / .927
.209 / .311 / .367 / .677
Take a look at his game log from about late July on (here). He turned into nothing short of a black hole offensively (absolutely zero power). While this could be a slump or the league catching up with him or whatever you want to believe, you have to figure that, to some extent, the injury was taking its toll.
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Re: Musing on a Cub-Card trade.
I have no doubt that Duncan's problems were due to the injury. One cannot swing a bat effectively with a sports hernia.planet pujolsian wrote:This is a great point, Kyle. I know there are several Duncan nay sayers on this board, but the stats (with the hernia) can't go unquestioned.Kyle wrote:Duncan's stats are adversely skewed by his hernia. He claims that it had been affecting him for around two months (not including mid-late September). This is consistent with his first / second half splits:
.288 / .380 / .547 / .927
.209 / .311 / .367 / .677
Take a look at his game log from about late July on (here). He turned into nothing short of a black hole offensively (absolutely zero power). While this could be a slump or the league catching up with him or whatever you want to believe, you have to figure that, to some extent, the injury was taking its toll.
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Re: Musing on a Cub-Card trade.
Definitely would not do it. Cant ship out my boy, Duncan.
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