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PostPosted: February 16 12, 9:48 am 
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I don't know why they're bothering to spend millions upon millions of dollars on that decrepit rotting decaying stadium, they ought to just implode the damn thing and build a new stadium. Build a new stadium with some of the same features as Wrigley but with new concourses, proper bathrooms and no posts obstructing the view. Nostalgia is all good and stuff but it's not like they have a history of pouring champagne on each other in that stadium, they have a history of losing.


I think that they should build a new stadium at a different location, but still use Wrigley on selected weekend games and a couple day games during the week per season. That way they could get have a new stadium, but still cater to the tourist/beer garden fans that only show up because it's Wrigley.


That might make the most financial sense. Off the top of my head, I cannot think of any large parcels of land available on the north side near the lake (Mrs. Jack and I have been house hunting), but I am sure there is some land available around Uptown or maybe a bit west.

With some relatively minor work, WF could be turned into a venue for more exhibition baseball, nude women's softball, wrassling, Better Than Ezra concerts, and--gasp--college football games (without the sandlot endzone rules).

At some point, without the Cubs, the "novelty" of a re-christened WF wears off and the thing ends up like the St. Louis Arena/Checkerdome.

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The Cubs have some of the most loyal fans in baseball and they owe it to the fans to provide a better atmosphere at the ballpark. I don't understand how anyone can pay good money to sit in that dump after the first visit

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PostPosted: February 16 12, 10:12 am 
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The Cubs have some of the most loyal fans in baseball and they owe it to the fans to provide a better atmosphere at the ballpark. I don't understand how anyone can pay good money to sit in that dump after the first visit

I'd really be curious how Cubs fans would answer this poll.

Would you rather have:

A new stadium that will increase the % of brigning home a WS championship
What they have now

Of course, a new stadium doesn't guarantee anything so this is a pointless question, really. But, I'd be curious....

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PostPosted: February 16 12, 10:33 am 
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They haven't won a championship in their new ballpark, why do they need a newer one?

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I wonder if Ricketts had any choice in buying the Cubs of opting out of buying WF. My guess is not.

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fanforever wrote:
The Cubs have some of the most loyal fans in baseball and they owe it to the fans to provide a better atmosphere at the ballpark. I don't understand how anyone can pay good money to sit in that dump after the first visit

I'd really be curious how Cubs fans would answer this poll.

Would you rather have:

A new stadium that will increase the % of brigning home a WS championship
What they have now

Of course, a new stadium doesn't guarantee anything so this is a pointless question, really. But, I'd be curious....


I'm not a "If you tear down Wrigley I will LITERALLY KILL MYSELF" guy, but I really like the place and would prefer them keeping the park. The line gets blurred a bit when you talk about wholesale renovations, and I think a well done new stadium in a different area of the city could be very good as well, but between the history and the ambiance/unique features, I'd prefer to keep the Cubs there. Of course, I have exactly zero problems with the experience there, save for maybe having a little bit of a longer walk from my parking spot. Maybe I'm low maintenance, but I have minimal requirements of a stadium. I go to the stadium, probably get a couple hot dogs and something to drink, use the restroom before the game, and maybe once in the middle innings, and then I leave. I've never found Wrigley to be inadequate for any of those things, never found it cramped(certainly no more cramped than other stadiums), and I think Wrigley has the most seats with a great view of any stadium. I haven't been to every stadium, but I've seen my share, and I just don't get the "it's a falling apart dump that is a miserable place" sentiment compared to other places. Maybe other people care more about what the concourse walls look like than me, or they spend a lot more time outside their seat than I do, I dunno.


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The innards are dumpy and it smells, but it's still a great place to watch a baseball game, especially with decent seats.

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I'm not a "If you tear down Wrigley I will LITERALLY KILL MYSELF" guy, but I really like the place and would prefer them keeping the park. The line gets blurred a bit when you talk about wholesale renovations, and I think a well done new stadium in a different area of the city could be very good as well, but between the history and the ambiance/unique features, I'd prefer to keep the Cubs there. Of course, I have exactly zero problems with the experience there, save for maybe having a little bit of a longer walk from my parking spot. Maybe I'm low maintenance, but I have minimal requirements of a stadium. I go to the stadium, probably get a couple hot dogs and something to drink, use the restroom before the game, and maybe once in the middle innings, and then I leave. I've never found Wrigley to be inadequate for any of those things, never found it cramped(certainly no more cramped than other stadiums), and I think Wrigley has the most seats with a great view of any stadium. I haven't been to every stadium, but I've seen my share, and I just don't get the "it's a falling apart dump that is a miserable place" sentiment compared to other places. Maybe other people care more about what the concourse walls look like than me, or they spend a lot more time outside their seat than I do, I dunno.


I certainly wasn't criticizing the ballpark. I was just curious if WF has become more important to some fans than the success of the team that plays there. Forcing them to forfeit advertising dollars in order to keep the ivy suggests that it may be that way to some.

When DeWitt et al wanted a new stadium, the main reason was to increase revenues and keep the team competitive. It may/may not have been a bs line, but it's a pretty good argument. Of course everyone wanted Busch II to remain, but most that bought into the 'remain competitive' argument certainly weren't upset.

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They haven't won a championship in their new ballpark, why do they need a newer one?

hahahaha

The Cell is a nice park once you get to your seats, but outside it has about as much character as a community college. I like everything about Wrigley, except how in the back of your mind you feel like the whole thing is seconds from collapsing on top of you.

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AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:
I certainly wasn't criticizing the ballpark. I was just curious if WF has become more important to some fans than the success of the team that plays there. Forcing them to forfeit advertising dollars in order to keep the ivy suggests that it may be that way to some.


I think that would be a larger concern if the Cubs were more economically similar to a place like Pittsburgh or Milwaukee. Any marginal difference in revenue isn't likely to be the tipping point for the quality of product they can put on the field.


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