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Well, for awhile, we had - David Palmer's rain-shortened five-inning perfect game for Montreal against the Cards way back when (I want to say 1983, but I'm not sure).

However, after the re-definition a few years ago, the Palmer game is no longer considered an official no-hitter or perfect game, since he didn't go nine. Neither are the various eight-inning no-hitters considered "official" any more (those were the games where a pitcher gave up no hits but did allow a run or two (walks and errors, etc) and didn't even get to pitch the ninth because his team was behind after 8 1/2 innings.

Then you have the Haddix game in 1959; 12 perfect innings before he gave up the hit in the 13th that lost the game - that's no longer official because of that 13th inning.

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"You have to be concerned about the future, but you also have to be more concerned about the present. If you have to give up two or three young kids - who may not be able to play for several years - to get help for your team now, you have to do it." - Bing Devine, 1999

"They call baseball a game because it's too screwed up to be a business." - Jim Bouton, 1971.

"Big deal. Anyone can win games when the other team doesn't score any runs." - Curt Flood to Bob Gibson, circa 1968

I'm perfectly content with not counting games of fewer than nine innings. What's odd is MLB's insistence on simultaneously counting those as complete games.

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"This is a heavyweight bout indeed."--John Rooney, Oct. 27, 2011

Just got a chance to see that last play. Hilarious. You fail, Brendan Ryan.

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"This is a heavyweight bout indeed."--John Rooney, Oct. 27, 2011

Hard to fault him when an umpire makes that bad of a call. Ryan wasn't even close to going around.

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Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. Payback for Jim Joyce's brain fart 2years ago I guess.

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Your friendly neighborhood bigot since 2012.

It was a bad call, I guess, but stopping to chat with the umpire when the ball is trickling away is bad form. Anyway, yes, karma is paid back for Jim Joyce.

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"This is a heavyweight bout indeed."--John Rooney, Oct. 27, 2011

He certainly was close to going around, if he didn't. Closer than some final "strikes" I've seen called when a pitcher has it going.

Good picture. Close enough that it wasn't a bad call for sure.

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Your friendly neighborhood bigot since 2012.

In real time it looked like he went around.

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Reminds me of the final pitch in Don Larsen's World Series perfect game. IIRC, that was the final game in *that* home plate umpire's career.

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"You have to be concerned about the future, but you also have to be more concerned about the present. If you have to give up two or three young kids - who may not be able to play for several years - to get help for your team now, you have to do it." - Bing Devine, 1999

"They call baseball a game because it's too screwed up to be a business." - Jim Bouton, 1971.

"Big deal. Anyone can win games when the other team doesn't score any runs." - Curt Flood to Bob Gibson, circa 1968