If you are like me, you won't be getting much. I don't do 9:00 start times.Schlich wrote:is it really another [expletive] off day? [expletive] this schedule. 3 off days in 8 days. right after the all star break.KyCardinalFan wrote:It's an off-day. We need more debate.jim wrote:So have we collectively finally come around to the fact that AW belongs in this conversation?
That was my point, and there were some excellent posts to back that up.
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Waino would get my Cy Young vote right now.
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yeah. me too. part of me likes the "novelty" of the west coast games/start times but im always pissed at like 10:30 when i start to get sleepy and its only the 4th inningjim wrote:If you are like me, you won't be getting much. I don't do 9:00 start times.Schlich wrote:is it really another [expletive] off day? [expletive] this schedule. 3 off days in 8 days. right after the all star break.KyCardinalFan wrote:It's an off-day. We need more debate.jim wrote:So have we collectively finally come around to the fact that AW belongs in this conversation?
That was my point, and there were some excellent posts to back that up.
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Kershaw has been great but his season does not compare to 1999 Pedro. That's hyperbole. Pedro struck out 37% of batters he faced in a hyperinflated offensive era. That's 2.5 times more than average starter struck out that season. In 2014 Kershaw has struck out 33% which is impressive...but the average starter has struck out 19% So let's back away from that.
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You forgot hahahah X 100 to make your point.Cheddar Tom wrote:Kershaw has been great but his season does not compare to 1999 Pedro. That's hyperbole. Pedro struck out 37% of batters he faced in a hyperinflated offensive era. That's 2.5 times more than average starter struck out that season. In 2014 Kershaw has struck out 33% which is impressive...but the average starter has struck out 19% So let's back away from that.
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lol well...I thought it might be rude so I just decided to lay out the facts w/o being harsh. He's great but not Pedro great. Nobody ever will be again.
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It's easy to forget the "juice" factor in 1999 as well.
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Sale over Felix? Wow. Sale's ERA is a tiny bit better, but Felix has a better FIP, and has thrown 48 more innings, more K's, more wins, etc, etc. It's similar to the Kershaw/Waino debate because of the innings difference. Sale could take it if he stays healthy the rest of the way, and keeps at his current pace.Jocephus wrote:oh its over
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My math could be off, but in 2014, I think someone would have to have roughly around a 1.20 ERA or so in order to get to an ERA+ of 291 like Pedro had in 2000. It would be in that neighborhood at least.
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They could always play 35 consecutive days after the break, like the 1968 Cards.Schlich wrote:is it really another [expletive] off day? [expletive] this schedule. 3 off days in 8 days. right after the all star break.KyCardinalFan wrote:It's an off-day. We need more debate.jim wrote:So have we collectively finally come around to the fact that AW belongs in this conversation?
That was my point, and there were some excellent posts to back that up.
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291. Holy [expletive].pioneer98 wrote:My math could be off, but in 2014, I think someone would have to have roughly around a 1.20 ERA or so in order to get to an ERA+ of 291 like Pedro had in 2000. It would be in that neighborhood at least.