It wasn't all Gibson....6 other pitchers had sub-2 ERA's that year.wart57 wrote:Who of the above did they change the field to try to take away some of his dominance?
Who would you guys take (Kershaw/Gibson/Martinez)?
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Who of those 3 have a plaque in Cooperstown wearing a Cardinals cap?
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Re: Who would you guys take (Kershaw/Gibson/Martinez)?
I misread the poll. I was thinking in terms of "if you were starting a franchise and could take one of these guys for their whole career". I picked Kershaw because of that.
One guy, in his prime? Pedro.
One guy, peak season? Pedro.
One guy, career? Kershaw.
Kershaw might be putting up the best single season of all of them as we speak.
One guy, in his prime? Pedro.
One guy, peak season? Pedro.
One guy, career? Kershaw.
Kershaw might be putting up the best single season of all of them as we speak.
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Gibson....there were less teams and No expansion prior to 1969
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The only one I've seen pitch live in-person is Pedro, and that was after he retired. A couple years ago over Memorial Day weekend (then) future Mrs. Swirls and I went to Cooperstown to hit up Brewery Ommegang, see Modest Mouse, and hit up the HOF as well as the old timer's baseball game. I had no idea what the roster was going to be like, but was not at all expecting these four things to happen that game:
1) My favorite Cardinal growing up, Ozzie Smith, to be the manager of the NL team
2) Pedro Martinez to start the game for the NL and absolutely dominate - I think he had six or seven K's in his three innings pitched
3) The Immortal Kerry Robinson to represent the Cardinals and get a start in the outfield
4) Ozzie to trade Kerry mid-game right after he struck out looking for Todd Jones, who came on in relief the following inning and served up a grand slam (can't remember to whom, though)
I highly recommend that for anyone who heads up to Cooperstown to see the Hall of Fame, don't do it during HOF induction weekend unless your idol is being inducted (it's too crowded) but instead go over Memorial Day weekend to see the Hall of Fame Classic. So entertaining.
EDIT: I forgot to vote, I'd pick Pedro.
1) My favorite Cardinal growing up, Ozzie Smith, to be the manager of the NL team
2) Pedro Martinez to start the game for the NL and absolutely dominate - I think he had six or seven K's in his three innings pitched
3) The Immortal Kerry Robinson to represent the Cardinals and get a start in the outfield
4) Ozzie to trade Kerry mid-game right after he struck out looking for Todd Jones, who came on in relief the following inning and served up a grand slam (can't remember to whom, though)
I highly recommend that for anyone who heads up to Cooperstown to see the Hall of Fame, don't do it during HOF induction weekend unless your idol is being inducted (it's too crowded) but instead go over Memorial Day weekend to see the Hall of Fame Classic. So entertaining.
EDIT: I forgot to vote, I'd pick Pedro.
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When I first read it, I was thinking:Fat Strat wrote:I misread the poll. I was thinking in terms of "if you were starting a franchise and could take one of these guys for their whole career". I picked Kershaw because of that.
One guy, in his prime? Pedro.
One guy, peak season? Pedro.
One guy, career? Kershaw.
Kershaw might be putting up the best single season of all of them as we speak.
One guy, one must-win game? Gibby based on his post-season record.
As for peak portion of career, I can't decide.
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Shut your mouth. It was all because of Gibson!Cheddar Tom wrote:It wasn't all Gibson....6 other pitchers had sub-2 ERA's that year.wart57 wrote:Who of the above did they change the field to try to take away some of his dominance?
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I loved watching Maddux and thought he was one of the best
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Re: Who would you guys take (Kershaw/Gibson/Martinez)?
I'm an old guy, I guess.
Gibson was one of my youth heroes. One of my first solid baseball memories was his 17K game in the '68 World Series (I was 7). I listened to his no-hitter on the radio in '71 and watched his decline over the next few years.
He was the greatest competitor I ever saw.
I think Gibby would have given either of those guys a good game.
Koufax and Dwight Gooden deserve mention too.
Gibson was one of my youth heroes. One of my first solid baseball memories was his 17K game in the '68 World Series (I was 7). I listened to his no-hitter on the radio in '71 and watched his decline over the next few years.
He was the greatest competitor I ever saw.
I think Gibby would have given either of those guys a good game.
Koufax and Dwight Gooden deserve mention too.
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Re: Who would you guys take (Kershaw/Gibson/Martinez)?
Yeah...Gashouse wrote:When I first read it, I was thinking:Fat Strat wrote:I misread the poll. I was thinking in terms of "if you were starting a franchise and could take one of these guys for their whole career". I picked Kershaw because of that.
One guy, in his prime? Pedro.
One guy, peak season? Pedro.
One guy, career? Kershaw.
Kershaw might be putting up the best single season of all of them as we speak.
One guy, one must-win game? Gibby based on his post-season record.
As for peak portion of career, I can't decide.
One guy, must win? Gibson.