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Re: Cleveland Going For 21st Straight Win

Posted: September 13 17, 8:37 pm
by Famous Mortimer
The all time record is some garbage where a rained off game that was called a draw was the 13th of 26. I reckon if Cleveland win again, it ought to be the record.

Re: Cleveland Going For 21st Straight Win

Posted: September 14 17, 12:42 am
by CardsofSTL
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Re: Cleveland Going For 21st Straight Win

Posted: September 14 17, 7:10 am
by Farewell Friends
Famous Mortimer wrote:The all time record is some garbage where a rained off game that was called a draw was the 13th of 26. I reckon if Cleveland win again, it ought to be the record.
John McGraw's great great grandson will lead a march yelling 'YOU WILL NOT REPLACE US.' No thanks.

Re: Cleveland Going For 21st Straight Win

Posted: September 14 17, 7:18 am
by baseburglerlou
Just happy they eclipsed Billy Beane.

Re: Cleveland Going For 21st Straight Win

Posted: September 14 17, 7:24 am
by Fat Strat
Famous Mortimer wrote:The all time record is some garbage where a rained off game that was called a draw was the 13th of 26. I reckon if Cleveland win again, it ought to be the record.
I heard about that, and that's not accurate. I can't remember the teams involved, but the 13th game in the streak was rained out at a draw. The next day, they replayed the same game and the streaking team won. So, there was no official tie. The original game was marked off the books -- but the stats still count for some reason, which is why you can find the info about it, replayed and won by the streaking team, so it's very much a legit win streak.

Re: Cleveland Going For 21st Straight Win

Posted: September 14 17, 7:43 am
by Swirls
Fat Strat wrote:
Famous Mortimer wrote:The all time record is some garbage where a rained off game that was called a draw was the 13th of 26. I reckon if Cleveland win again, it ought to be the record.
I heard about that, and that's not accurate. I can't remember the teams involved, but the 13th game in the streak was rained out at a draw. The next day, they replayed the same game and the streaking team won. So, there was no official tie. The original game was marked off the books -- but the stats still count for some reason, which is why you can find the info about it, replayed and won by the streaking team, so it's very much a legit win streak.
That's not what they were saying on MLB Network this morning. Apparently the Elias Sports Bureau got involved, and it sounded like the game was called after 8 innings due to darkness (which was actually pretty common back in that era - there were other games during that streak that were called after 7 innings or 8.1 innings) but was never made up. It would have been made up had it been necessary in affecting the final standings.

Just like today, if a game is postponed and can't easily be made up over the course of the rest of the season but could potentially affect the overall standings/playoff teams, they'll make it up after the season ends but before the playoffs start. If the makeup game has no playoff implications, the teams won't make it up. That's why you occasionally see teams only play 161 games in a season.

The Giants' win steak included several double-headers, sometimes on consecutive days. It does not appear that the double-header played the day after that 13th game was for a makeup game.

No clue how correct it is, I'm just going by what Steve Phillips and CJ Nitkowski were saying on the air. And everyone knows how much of an idiot Steve Phillips is, so take the above with a grain of salt.

Re: Cleveland Going For 21st Straight Win

Posted: September 14 17, 9:31 am
by Fat Strat
Apparently the Elias Sports Bureau got involved, and it sounded like the game was called after 8 innings due to darkness (which was actually pretty common back in that era - there were other games during that streak that were called after 7 innings or 8.1 innings) but was never made up.
I heard the rep from Elias yesterday talking about it on a radio show and he said very specifically that the same game was replayed the next day.

Re: Cleveland Going For 21st Straight Win

Posted: September 14 17, 11:07 am
by Swirls
Fat Strat wrote:
Apparently the Elias Sports Bureau got involved, and it sounded like the game was called after 8 innings due to darkness (which was actually pretty common back in that era - there were other games during that streak that were called after 7 innings or 8.1 innings) but was never made up.
I heard the rep from Elias yesterday talking about it on a radio show and he said very specifically that the same game was replayed the next day.
Interesting. Chalk up another one to Steve Phillips being an idiot.

Re: Cleveland Going For 21st Straight Win

Posted: September 14 17, 11:08 am
by TimChopsula
Swirls wrote:
Fat Strat wrote:
Apparently the Elias Sports Bureau got involved, and it sounded like the game was called after 8 innings due to darkness (which was actually pretty common back in that era - there were other games during that streak that were called after 7 innings or 8.1 innings) but was never made up.
I heard the rep from Elias yesterday talking about it on a radio show and he said very specifically that the same game was replayed the next day.
Interesting. Chalk up another one to Steve Phillips being an idiot.
And with that, we are officially out of chalk.

Re: Cleveland Going For 21st Straight Win

Posted: September 14 17, 11:09 am
by Fat Strat
Swirls wrote:
Fat Strat wrote:
Apparently the Elias Sports Bureau got involved, and it sounded like the game was called after 8 innings due to darkness (which was actually pretty common back in that era - there were other games during that streak that were called after 7 innings or 8.1 innings) but was never made up.
I heard the rep from Elias yesterday talking about it on a radio show and he said very specifically that the same game was replayed the next day.
Interesting. Chalk up another one to Steve Phillips being an idiot.
That we can agree on.

It was a fascinating interview if you can find it -- Mike and Mike, ESPN, Wed. morning. It would have been about 7:45-8 am central time as I pulled up to the office. I remember sitting in my car listening for awhile because it was fascinating. Worth a listen. The Elias rep was outstanding.