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 Post subject: Re: Machado
PostPosted: January 11 19, 1:20 pm 
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Machado is def the better long term fit. Its more difficult to find an elite 3b than LF/RF. You may already have that in a healthy Ozuna if you resign him.

I'd sign Machado and trade Marp in a minute. (Sorry Marp)


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 Post subject: Re: Machado
PostPosted: January 11 19, 7:44 pm 
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If Machado were signed; I think Wong would become the odd man out and Carp moves to 2B. Wong would be traded or a bench player. But they aren't signing Machado so it's all just gumflapping.


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 Post subject: Re: Machado
PostPosted: January 11 19, 8:52 pm 
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Get er done Mo


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 Post subject: Re: Machado
PostPosted: January 14 19, 9:20 am 
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Jeff Passan of ESPN reports that the White Sox have made an eight-year contract offer to free agent superstar Manny Machado.
Bob Nightengale of USA Today reported earlier in the day that the White Sox had made an offer to Machado "for about $200 million", and now we learn that it's for an eight-year pact. The White Sox have been steadfast in their reluctance to go to 10 years on the contract, and reportedly they're nowhere near the $300 million threshold that Machado had been hoping for. Unless a vaunted mystery team comes into play, or the Yankees jump back into the mix, it looks like the battle for Machado will come down to the White Sox and Phillies.


If the leading offer really is 8/200, someone (I'd love it to be the Cardinals, but I'm a realist) should beat that on years or money.


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 Post subject: Re: Machado
PostPosted: January 14 19, 10:06 am 
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heyzeus wrote:
If the leading offer really is 8/200, someone (I'd love it to be the Cardinals, but I'm a realist) should beat that on years or money.

That's a really similar deal to Jason Heyward, which isn't too surprising considering that they're incredibly similar players. They both hit the market after their age 25 season with around 30 career WAR that's heavy on fielding value (+75-100). Machado put up better hitting numbers pre-free agency, but not as much as you'd think (114 vs 121 OPS+). I certainly wouldn't expect Machado to fall off a cliff, but I found the similarity amusing.


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 Post subject: Re: Machado
PostPosted: January 14 19, 10:34 am 
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I'm telling you all, Machado attending Willie McGee and Yadier Molina Charm School will be all he needs to win this fanbase over. He will be *our* hot head.

I wouldn't move Carpenter either. I'd just put Machado at short. DeJong should move around before Carpenter.

DeJong has surprised us and overachieved but he's still a 6/27 BB/K guy like Grichuk. At some point we will see the downside of that kind of hitting profile. He was developed to be a super utility player, he was a former catcher moved to third and then forced into SS role because Diaz fell off the planet. DeJong in the Zobrist role. Use ST to get LF time. Play him at 2B against lefties.

Yes, this likely doesn't happen. But it should and would help the team.


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 Post subject: Re: Machado
PostPosted: January 14 19, 11:00 am 
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CardsofSTL wrote:


Get er done Mo


Does ANYBODY report mystery team more often than Jon Heyman?


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 Post subject: Re: Machado
PostPosted: January 14 19, 11:01 am 
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Bruce Levine of 670 The Score reports that Manny Machado's offer from the White Sox remains at seven years.
There's some contrasting information out there at the moment, as Bob Nightengale of USA Today backs up Levine's report of seven years. However, Jeff Passan of ESPN.com reported late Sunday that Chicago offered eight years to Machado, with Z101Digital’s Hector Gomez adding that it's worth $250 million. Either way, Machado is still a free agent and surely wants something closer to 10 years and $300 million. The wait continues.
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Source: 670 The Score
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 Post subject: Re: Machado
PostPosted: January 15 19, 1:35 pm 
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The Specter of Jason Heyward’s Contract Looms Over Manny Machado
by Craig Edwards
January 14, 2019


https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-specter ... y-machado/

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Three winters ago, Jason Heyward was a young free agent, a relative rarity as most players make their debuts at 23 years old or older, while many other young stars sign contract extensions prolonging the wait to hit the open market. Heyward debuted at just 20 years old on Opening Day back in 2010 and moved through the arbitration process to become a free agent heading into his age-26 season. There hadn’t been a free agent like Heyward — that young and that accomplished — in more than a decade. Three seasons later, Heyward has put up just four wins rather than the four wins per year that was expected. And now a very similar player in Manny Machado is hitting free agency, and might not be receiving the offers he expected.


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 Post subject: Re: Machado
PostPosted: January 15 19, 1:51 pm 
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I kind of love that people are looking at Heyward like YOU DID THIS.


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