Matheny: Cardinals' Hall of Famer?
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Re: Matheny: Cardinals' Hall of Famer?
Torre was an MVP
Matheny’s never impressed as a player or manager
Matheny’s never impressed as a player or manager
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Re: Matheny: Cardinals' Hall of Famer?
Defensively Matheny was an excellent catcher.Big Amoco Sign wrote:Torre was an MVP
Matheny’s never impressed as a player or manager
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Re: Matheny: Cardinals' Hall of Famer?
I should say... Not a hall of famer. But an excellent defensive catcher.
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Re: Matheny: Cardinals' Hall of Famer?
Not even close.
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Re: Matheny: Cardinals' Hall of Famer?
Just wait a decade and let nostalgia set in.
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Re: Matheny: Cardinals' Hall of Famer?
That's a really interesting question actually. He was pretty revered as a catcher. I realize he was never best in the league and his offense was so so, but he was certainly a fan favorite during his tenure and highly regarded defensively. I think he's going to have to wait for the stink to wear off but I could definitely see down the road the fans voting him in.
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Re: Matheny: Cardinals' Hall of Famer?
Dude had a OPS+ of 67 for the Cardinals. That's not so so, that's Kozma territory.IMADreamer wrote:That's a really interesting question actually. He was pretty revered as a catcher. I realize he was never best in the league and his offense was so so, but he was certainly a fan favorite during his tenure and highly regarded defensively. I think he's going to have to wait for the stink to wear off but I could definitely see down the road the fans voting him in.
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Re: Matheny: Cardinals' Hall of Famer?
He put up less than 3WAR in his entire playing career. There are players who do that in a couple of months.
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Re: Matheny: Cardinals' Hall of Famer?
that's using fWAR tooSocnorb11 wrote:He put up less than 3WAR in his entire playing career. There are players who do that in a couple of months.
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Re: Matheny: Cardinals' Hall of Famer?
It will take a few years to get the bad taste out of everybody's mouth before anyone would even consider voting for Matheny. Even then, there will be a lot of other people that should go in before he does. If it does gets down to him so many players will be in it will be watered down.