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Re: Goldschmidt to Cardinals for Kelly, Weaver, Young, Comp

Posted: December 6 18, 12:05 pm
by Big Amoco Sign
Bader should not bat anywhere other than 8th.

Re: Goldschmidt to Cardinals for Kelly, Weaver, Young, Comp

Posted: December 6 18, 12:09 pm
by wart57
I wonder if you should bat Ozuna 3 and Goldy 4 - Ozuna needs protection way more than Goldy...

I know I would walk Goldy to face Ozuna way more than I would ever walk Ozuna to face Goldy, not that I would want to do either...

Nice problem to have!

Re: Goldschmidt to Cardinals for Kelly, Weaver, Young, Comp

Posted: December 6 18, 12:09 pm
by CardsofSTL
Big Amoco Sign wrote:Bader should not bat anywhere other than 8th.
My first thought was Wong leading off over Bader...but then you got the lefties back to back so I switched it up. We will have to figure it all out again later after we sign Harper anyway.

Re: Goldschmidt to Cardinals for Kelly, Weaver, Young, Comp

Posted: December 6 18, 12:11 pm
by wart57
CardsofSTL wrote:
Big Amoco Sign wrote:Bader should not bat anywhere other than 8th.
My first thought was Wong leading off over Bader...but then you got the lefties back to back so I switched it up. We will have to figure it all out again later after we sign Harper anyway.
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Re: Goldschmidt to Cardinals for Kelly, Weaver, Young, Comp

Posted: December 6 18, 12:20 pm
by Big Amoco Sign
I believe the Cardinals have bought into the high power/high K rate guys batting 3 and 6. Most of the lineups should see DeJong batting 3rd. With Ozuna being the ideal cleanup hitter.

1 and 2 will almost always be this:
Carpenter
Goldschmidt

I think 3-8 look like this on most days:
DeJong
Ozuna
Wong
O'Neill
Molina
Bader

It's good to have DeJong in the 3rd spot because he's a launch angle guy and won't ground into many DPs if Goldy and Carpenter are on base. A K is better than a guy like Ozuna who makes lots of contact and turns those On-Base guys into extra outs.

Re: Goldschmidt to Cardinals for Kelly, Weaver, Young, Comp

Posted: December 6 18, 12:22 pm
by DeadMoney
My lineup would be
Carp
Goldschmidt
Ozuna
Dejong
ONeill
Yadi
Wong
Bader
Pitcher

Re: Goldschmidt to Cardinals for Kelly, Weaver, Young, Comp

Posted: December 6 18, 12:30 pm
by cardsfantx
Big Amoco Sign wrote:I believe the Cardinals have bought into the high power/high K rate guys batting 3 and 6. Most of the lineups should see DeJong batting 3rd. With Ozuna being the ideal cleanup hitter.

1 and 2 will almost always be this:
Carpenter
Goldschmidt

I think 3-8 look like this on most days:
DeJong
Ozuna
Wong
O'Neill
Molina
Bader

It's good to have DeJong in the 3rd spot because he's a launch angle guy and won't ground into many DPs if Goldy and Carpenter are on base. A K is better than a guy like Ozuna who makes lots of contact and turns those On-Base guys into extra outs.
don't want Molina right in front of Bader...his biggest asset (speed) is worthless if Molina gets a base hit ahead of him

Re: Goldschmidt to Cardinals for Kelly, Weaver, Young, Comp

Posted: December 6 18, 12:31 pm
by Big Amoco Sign
cardsfantx wrote:
Big Amoco Sign wrote:I believe the Cardinals have bought into the high power/high K rate guys batting 3 and 6. Most of the lineups should see DeJong batting 3rd. With Ozuna being the ideal cleanup hitter.

1 and 2 will almost always be this:
Carpenter
Goldschmidt

I think 3-8 look like this on most days:
DeJong
Ozuna
Wong
O'Neill
Molina
Bader

It's good to have DeJong in the 3rd spot because he's a launch angle guy and won't ground into many DPs if Goldy and Carpenter are on base. A K is better than a guy like Ozuna who makes lots of contact and turns those On-Base guys into extra outs.
don't want Molina right in front of Bader...his biggest asset (speed) is worthless if Molina gets a base hit ahead of him
Molina shouldn't bat in front of a pitcher either. Ever.

Molina is a problem no matter where he is. 7th is his best spot because O'Neill and DeJong need to bat 3 and 6 being high power/high K guys.

Re: Goldschmidt to Cardinals for Kelly, Weaver, Young, Comp

Posted: December 6 18, 12:33 pm
by CardsofSTL
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Re: Goldschmidt to Cardinals for Kelly, Weaver, Young, Comp

Posted: December 6 18, 12:35 pm
by Freed Roger
Busy thread, so sorry if addressed. The comp pick - what is it?