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Re: Uncle Charlie

Posted: September 9 19, 10:11 am
by JCShutout
My thoughts? Bring him back as a long man/relief pitcher, (and have him stretched out to start in the Spring in case someone gets injured) and sign a top starter. What do I think the Cards will do? Resign Waino for the rotation.

Re: Uncle Charlie

Posted: September 9 19, 10:11 am
by dmarx114
Yes, bring him back on a similar deal.

Re: Uncle Charlie

Posted: September 9 19, 10:16 am
by Big Amoco Sign
When I say staples, I don't mean Cole necessarily. But they've traded Weaver and Gonzalez. Reyes never became who we thought. Woodford could be the next guy they shove in the rotation, but not a big fan. Can't rely on Ponce de Leon/Gant/Gombers for much. I would like to see them commit to a young arm through the farm or trade for someone. The replacement for Wacha and possibly Wainwright means lots of innings. Curious where they go.

Re: Uncle Charlie

Posted: September 9 19, 11:20 am
by Michael
I'd argue he's pitched better than a 5th starter and I've love to see him back. Like all MLB staffs, we just need a reasonable backup option if he or someone else falters.

Re: Uncle Charlie

Posted: September 9 19, 1:36 pm
by pioneer98
Fat_Bulldog wrote:It can't be him AND Wacha in the rotation.

I'd like to see Martinez stay the closer but he wants to start.

Flaherty
Hudson
Mikolas
Martinez
Wainwright

That could be pretty good but who will close next year?
I agree with this. Gallegos could close next year. If Carlos is not back in the rotation then they really need to sign someone because Wacha ain't it.

Re: Uncle Charlie

Posted: September 9 19, 1:43 pm
by BottenFieldofDreams
cardsfantx wrote:now, if the question is, what WILL the FO do?

oh, he's coming back, no doubt in my mind...he's been good as a 5th starter, and they will def push their luck

0% chance they even look at Cole, I bet

I'm not disagreeing but I think there's a parallel 98.5% chance the FO talks about Cole like they're going to try and get him.

I say run this Wainwright deal back again, if he eants. Keeps us in most ballgames.

Re: Uncle Charlie

Posted: September 9 19, 1:43 pm
by cardsfantx
there's 0% chance the team would sign wacha

















right?!?!

Re: Uncle Charlie

Posted: September 9 19, 1:45 pm
by Fat Strat
Part of the AW returning equation is what they do with the rest of the roster. You/they can justify bringing AW back for the fifth spot, letting Ozuna walk because of O’Neill/Bader/Carlson/Fowler/Arozarena, and leaving the rest of the lineup and rotation intact. At that point, you maybe make a short-term bullpen move to protect Gallegos until Hicks returns, but basically, you are cutting about $20 in payroll because who you have is good ‘nough!

This offseason begs for the Cards to go better than good enough at one or two positions. Whether that is Ozuna returning, a good starter, a non-Ozuna OF’er, a 3bman, or elite closer. My preference is probably that order.

Re: Uncle Charlie

Posted: September 9 19, 2:01 pm
by pioneer98
The way the front office works in the offseason is they fill the biggest need right away and then call it an offseason.

Will they sign a 3B? Nope, not while Marp is still getting paid semi-big dollars. They'll just hope for a bounce-back season from him.

Will the re-sign Ozuna? Nope, not with all those halfway decent internal options.

I actually think they could sign Cole or Wheeler honestly. The rotation will be their biggest hole. But if they do that, they won't do anything else, at least nothing significant. They maybe sign or trade for some relief guys they think they can turn into something useful.

Re: Uncle Charlie

Posted: September 9 19, 2:06 pm
by thrill
Michael wrote:I'd argue he's pitched better than a 5th starter and I've love to see him back. Like all MLB staffs, we just need a reasonable backup option if he or someone else falters.
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