I don't know what fatuous means but you guys are being inane.JackofDiamonds wrote:Swirls wrote:Hence a fatuous answer.JackofDiamonds wrote:I was being fatuous.Swirls wrote:He writes for BP, so if there was anything, I bet we'd have to pay for it.JackofDiamonds wrote:Does anyone know if Kevin Goldstein has a take on Taveras or Rosenthal?
Oof. Which I clearly see now.
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Misogynist.lukethedrifter wrote:I don't know what fatuous means but you guys are being inane.JackofDiamonds wrote:Swirls wrote:Hence a fatuous answer.JackofDiamonds wrote:I was being fatuous.Swirls wrote:He writes for BP, so if there was anything, I bet we'd have to pay for it.JackofDiamonds wrote:Does anyone know if Kevin Goldstein has a take on Taveras or Rosenthal?
Oof. Which I clearly see now.
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Best Tools: Utility y Projection (Starters)
Fastball: Carlos Martinez (Cardinals)
TCF: Martinez can dial it up to elite velocity levels, consistently working in the plus-plus range and reaching back for triple digits when necessary. The pitch doesn’t just ride to the plate on the back of velocity; the fastball has late life and explosion, making it even more difficult to square up. With refined command, the offering will stand above the rest, regardless of the role it is deployed in. It’s a monster pitch, an 80-grader in the making.
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If they were at the same level, you have to wonder if scouts wouldn't consider Martinez a better prospect than Miller.With refined command, the offering will stand above the rest, regardless of the role it is deployed in. It’s a monster pitch, an 80-grader in the making.
And Jenkins keeps showing up in conversations like this.
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Most scouts I read say Martinez has a higher ceiling. I see Martinez being compared to Pedro if he figures it out. Shelby Miller more Josh Johnson/Matt Cain.Fat Strat wrote:If they were at the same level, you have to wonder if scouts wouldn't consider Martinez a better prospect than Miller.With refined command, the offering will stand above the rest, regardless of the role it is deployed in. It’s a monster pitch, an 80-grader in the making.
And Jenkins keeps showing up in conversations like this.
But a much higher bust factor for Martinez.
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I've been saying Matt Cain for a long time with Miller. I don't see ace with him, but rather a solid #2 pitcher. Since there are around 10 aces in my opinion, that's not a knock.Magneto2.0 wrote:Most scouts I read say Martinez has a higher ceiling. I see Martinez being compared to Pedro if he figures it out. Shelby Miller more Josh Johnson/Matt Cain.Fat Strat wrote:If they were at the same level, you have to wonder if scouts wouldn't consider Martinez a better prospect than Miller.With refined command, the offering will stand above the rest, regardless of the role it is deployed in. It’s a monster pitch, an 80-grader in the making.
And Jenkins keeps showing up in conversations like this.
But a much higher bust factor for Martinez.
I imagine Miller is a mid-3's career ERA pitcher and has some peak years that are much better than that.