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PostPosted: April 24 12, 9:50 pm 
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Yahoo! - Here's all you need to know about the playoff discussions at this week's BCS meeting
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What will be discussed: A playoff, and how it will be implemented. A BCS memo acquired by USA Today says there are four primary alternatives for a four-team playoff:
1. Semifinals and final that are hosted by traditional bowls.
2. Semifinals and final that are played at neutral sites, independent of the bowls.
3. Semifinals at bowls, with a championship game that is bid out to a host city.
4. On-campus semifinals hosted by the top two seeds, with the final at a bowl site.

Honestly, what is wrong with campuses hosting these games? Especially after you read this other article:

Bowls' extravagant revenues are closely examined as the NCAA mulls a playoff system
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One of the dirty secrets of many bowl games is that almost nothing is cheap. The industry, in this case represented by Sugar Bowl Inc., long ago learned how to squeeze every last penny out of college football. That includes charging even the stars of the show exorbitant prices for tickets.

How about a couple of free ones for the players to give to their parents or girlfriends or high school coaches? Please. The Sugar Bowl instead charged LSU $350 a seat, full price, for every last player request. Total cost: $254,800 on the players alone.

Oh, and the Tiger Marching Band, the one that is contractually obligated to attend bowl week and provide halftime entertainment? With bowls, not even the band gets in free. LSU had to buy tickets for every clarinetist, flutist, tuba player and majorette. Some of the seats, according to the Baton Rouge Advocate, just held the tuba.

That added up to 529 tickets, almost all full price. The bill for the student band to sit was $182,830.

That's $182,830 to get into a venue and give a free show to all the other paying customers.

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PostPosted: April 24 12, 9:58 pm 
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While financial numbers from this year aren't publicly available, the last time the Sugar Bowl "double hosted" – it's namesake game and the BCS title game – it did $34.1 million in revenue and turned an $11.6 million profit. Since the game enjoys a 501 (c) (3) non-profit status, that was all tax free.

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Is this a great country or what?

Actually, it is, I have a friend celebrating 11 years since he got to America after they left everything and walking out of Iran. The family came with nothing but their determination and energy and they are all making it here in America.

That doesn't mean crap like the Sugar Bowl charging their entertainment full price to attend isn't crazy. That's like charging roadies full price to attend the concert they were setting up or charging the batboys and the organist at Cardinals' games box seat prices to sit in the dugout or play the organ at games.

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PostPosted: April 25 12, 6:26 am 
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And if you actually read the whole article, there was a lot worse stuff than that.

There was corruption at these bowl games, where the heads of the "non-profits" were living a little too large, and were also bribing university officials to keep their business...and then the bowls also were getting "commissions" (or "kickbacks" depending on your view) from the area hotels they helped fill up...and the hotels were also charging huge premiums for rooms. It said one college got charged $340/night for 100 rooms, some of which they rented for a week...and on and on.

Why not just let the higher seed host the semifinals games at their normal stadium? I mean even here in Iowa they manage to get 70,000 people in and out every game without any problem at all. Plus there are already big games where the visiting team brings a LARGE contingent, and while hotels may charge a premium those weekends, it still would not rise to the levels of these bowls games, and there would be no "kickbacks"...not to mention the vast majority of the home team fans can generally sleep in their own beds.

So I say let the higher seed host the semifinal games, and then put out the championship game to the lowest bidder and rotate it each year like the Super Bowl.

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So I say let the higher seed host the semifinal games, and then put out the championship game to the lowest bidder and rotate it each year like the Super Bowl.


What do you do when the Boise State's of the world get there andtry to host in their relatively puny stadiums. And do you really want to go to Michigan or Pennsylvania to play football in January? Yeah the pros do it but I'm not so keen for the college bowls to go that route.

I'd like to see a 16 team playoff using existing bowls. That's 15 of the biggest bowls involved in the playoffs. The biggest bowls could rotate the 7 quarter/semi/finals.

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pioneer98 wrote:
So I say let the higher seed host the semifinal games, and then put out the championship game to the lowest bidder and rotate it each year like the Super Bowl.


What do you do when the Boise State's of the world get there andtry to host in their relatively puny stadiums. And do you really want to go to Michigan or Pennsylvania to play football in January? Yeah the pros do it but I'm not so keen for the college bowls to go that route.


http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2 ... mpus-games

Average capacity for the semifinal matchups in the BCS area would have been over 86k, greater than every NFL stadium by at least 6000.

And why wouldn't you want to see a December/January game in Ann Arbor or Madison? It'd be great, and there's no way they wouldn't pack the stadium.


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Joe Shlabotnik wrote:
pioneer98 wrote:
So I say let the higher seed host the semifinal games, and then put out the championship game to the lowest bidder and rotate it each year like the Super Bowl.


What do you do when the Boise State's of the world get there andtry to host in their relatively puny stadiums. And do you really want to go to Michigan or Pennsylvania to play football in January? Yeah the pros do it but I'm not so keen for the college bowls to go that route.


http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2 ... mpus-games

Average capacity for the semifinal matchups in the BCS area would have been over 86k, greater than every NFL stadium by at least 6000.

And why wouldn't you want to see a December/January game in Ann Arbor or Madison? It'd be great, and there's no way they wouldn't pack the stadium.

Sure, they can hold a lot of people, but don't have much in the way of luxury seating. They also don't have the surrounding infrastructure to handle a national event (hotels, nearby airports, facilities for media, etc.)

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They do that 6 times a year. Sure there'd be some more national media presence, but "We can't have campus games, what'll we do with a dozen or two reporters?" is not a compelling reason to me. Especially stacked against the worry that you'd have attendance issues with a neutral site semifinal.


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Do you really want to be playing the most important College Football games of the year at cold weather locations like Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State or wherever? You have to make the games hosted at one of the current BCS bowl venues and have the championship game either at one of those or rotating between warm weather/domed cities. I don't think the games should take place on campus.


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JoeMcKim wrote:
Do you really want to be playing the most important College Football games of the year at cold weather locations like Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State or wherever?


Yes, a thousand times yes, presuming that Columbia, MO is not an option. Especially when the alternative is playing in Miami or Dallas in front of a crowd of 25 thousand while everyone waits to see if their team wins to make a trip for the title game.


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