++obucard wrote:Krzyzewski deserves some credit for 30+ years of a national power when the entire roster turns over every 3-4 years.
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He's been coaching the U.S. Mens' Olympic team that long?obucard wrote:Krzyzewski deserves some credit for 30+ years of a national power when the entire roster turns over every 3-4 years.
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Phil Jackson teams are exactly as good as the talent Phil Jackson teams have in the #1/#2 spots. Jordan/Pippen? Champs. Shaq/Kobe? Champs. Kobe/Pau? Champs.
The 05-06, 06-07 Lakers were meh. The non-Jordan Bulls were not that great, especially the 2nd year when they were ~35-30 when MJ returned and took them on a 13-4 run to close the year. 02-03 with the lakers, Shaq missed a sixth of the year and they had a so-so record and missed the playoffs.
Phil's career he's packing a walloping .704 win %. But take the years when he doesn't have two elite players at the 1-2 spots*, and a star player at the 3 spot, and he looks pretty human.
Jackson is, however, the best coach of our era at self-promotion.
*they're hard to find, because he'll bail before he'll coach a mediocre team, but a few of them are there.
The 05-06, 06-07 Lakers were meh. The non-Jordan Bulls were not that great, especially the 2nd year when they were ~35-30 when MJ returned and took them on a 13-4 run to close the year. 02-03 with the lakers, Shaq missed a sixth of the year and they had a so-so record and missed the playoffs.
Phil's career he's packing a walloping .704 win %. But take the years when he doesn't have two elite players at the 1-2 spots*, and a star player at the 3 spot, and he looks pretty human.
Jackson is, however, the best coach of our era at self-promotion.
*they're hard to find, because he'll bail before he'll coach a mediocre team, but a few of them are there.
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No. He had Pujols and his 75 WAR over 10 seasons. And benefit of NL Central where mediocrity could get them in the playoffs.go birds wrote:Couldn't you also make the same argument about LaRussa tho? He won alot of games with some pretty mediocre teams/players
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how many years have you been waiting to post that?
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Ha. I don't know. Whenever someone says God save the queen or quin Snyder, it pops into my head. I hate ku but that was a funny ass put down. Drove by it quite a bit when I lived up there.lukethedrifter wrote:how many years have you been waiting to post that?
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Watching PTI right now and Tony Cornheiser just proved how Tony Larussa is a better coach than Pop. I gotta follow this guy on twitter.
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Just under 50% of the population would probably vote for this: