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fanforever wrote:
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fanforever wrote:Usually the hope would be that Busch Stadium would bail Weaver out of his Cape Canaveral rocket-launch pitching style. Would it? No. Weaver is an extreme RH pitcher, a sidearm guy who has a sidearm slider and a lack of deception.

You think lefties don't fight to get to the box against this guy? Try these results on for size:

2006 vs LH: .560 SLG, 969 OPS

2003-05 vs LH: .506 SLG, 875 OPS

A little perspective, please: in 2003-05, every average LH hitter in the league turned into Miguel Tejada against Weaver. (Okay, Eric Chavez.)

In 2006, every average LH hitter has turned into Travis Hafner.

You think managers don't know that Weaver is a popup punching clown against any warm body in the right-side batter's box?

2003-06 AB's vs LH: 1445

2003-06 AB's vs RH: 1283

And on second thought I don't think you can use Weaver as a RHP relief specialist. This year, he's giving up an 853 OPS against right-hand hitters.

So, great. You're going to take a guy who turns ham-and-egg LH hitters into Adam Dunn, and every manager in both leagues knows it, and you're going to put this pitcher into Busch Stadium...

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I Hope everyone is praying...... #-o
keep praying fellas.......
I guess people kept praying... which makes the fact that he is doing this against such a left-handed heavy team all the more amazing.

The Tigers should be a cake walk for him.

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Any chance of this being put into the archives? :P

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fanforever wrote:I guess we can say our Prayers where answered and Yours truly has the biggest foot up his arse.
Don't be too hard on yourself. I went to Cincy to see the Cards on Aug 7th.

Cards scored several runs in the top of the 1st. I told the Cincy fans around me, not to worry , Weaver would give them back up and more. I think he only gave up 1 run in 6 or 7 innings. Made me look like a genius, but it was great tasting crow.

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I will go on the record as being pleasantly surprised in the postseason with how well Weaver controlled his breaking pitches (which he had struggled with), and the late movement he was getting on his fastball.

He still had the tendency to make a bad pitch when he got rattled (see the Casey HR right after Duncan's error), but overall he impressed the heck out of me in the postseason.

That said, I'd still be leary of signing him. If he comes back, OK. If he doesn't, I won't lose a lot of sleep as long as we pick up someone similar. I still view him as a ticking time bomb who may stop listening to Duncan's advice if some adversity returns.

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No one expected the October we got out of Weaver. But it was interesting re-reading the thread with all of the updated avatars and sigs featuring our World Title. :cool:

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Well, I was surprised Weaver did as well as he did, but on another board before I joined GRB, I was pining for him, because he was a perfect reclaimation project for Bowie.

I just wish Weaver had as much movement on his pitches when he was with the Tigers. I was floored when I seen those clips on Friday night. The ball was dancing all over the place. Whatever happened to that?

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GatewaySnayke wrote: I just wish Weaver had as much movement on his pitches when he was with the Tigers. I was floored when I seen those clips on Friday night. The ball was dancing all over the place. Whatever happened to that?
Stopped throwing a spitter?

Seriously though, he still has some pretty sharp movement on most of his pitches. And sometimes, the less detectable movement on TV ends up being better, because it's so late the hitters don't have time to adjust. How many times Friday night did it look like the Tigers were going to crush one on the outside part of the plate, only to see the ball slide into Yadi's glove, just out of their reach?

Case in point, Game 1 against the Padres. Peavy looked like he had impossible movement in on righties with an upper 90's fastball. Yet the Cards were able to dial in and make contact. Meanwhile, Carpenter didn't look like he had as much movement, but he was much more succesful.

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Cronos69 wrote:Any chance of this being put into the archives? :P
YES. I nominate it too, Michael!

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Gotta nominate this as well :lol: :lol:

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