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PostPosted: November 7 07, 11:14 am 
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RC21 wrote:
How do you feel about the moon landing?


Didn't happen. Biggest hoax in the history of mankind. That and bigfoot.


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PostPosted: November 7 07, 11:14 am 
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Avoid tsumanis, move to South Dakota.

On second thought... :-s :-({|=


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PostPosted: November 7 07, 11:39 am 
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Leroy wrote:
Avoid tsumanis, move to South Dakota.

On second thought... :-s :-({|=


Any recent grasshopper plagues up there in the last few years?


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PostPosted: November 7 07, 11:40 am 
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The UN IPCC's Artful Bias

Glaring Omissions, False Confidence and Misleading Statistics

in the Summary for Policymakers

(The science summary -- Working Group 1 of the Third Assessment Report)

by David E. Wojick, Ph.D.

President, Climatechangedebate.org
(Click here for author information)



Summary of Findings:

The UN IPCC WG1 Summary for Policymakers (SPM) of the Third Assessment Report is not an assessment of climate change science, even though it claims to be. Rather, it is an artfully constructed presentation of just the science that supports the fear of human induced climate change. It is as one sided as a legal brief, which it resembles.

Line by line analysis of the SPM reveals that all of the science that cuts against the theory of human interference with climate has been systematically omitted. In some cases the leading arguments against human interference are actually touched on, but without being revealed or discussed. In other cases the evidence against human interference is simply ignored. Because of these strategic omissions, the SPM voices a degree of certainty that is entirely false.

Glaring omissions are only glaring to experts, so the "policymakers" -- including the press and the public -- who read the SPM will not realize they are being told only one side of a story. But the scientists who drafted the SPM know the truth, as revealed by the sometimes artful way they conceal it. This deliberate distortion can only be explained by the fact that the UN IPCC is part of an advocacy process, organized by the United Nations Environment Program and supporting the Kyoto Protocol.

What is systematically omitted from the SPM are precisely the uncertainties and positive counter evidence that might negate the human interference theory. Instead of assessing these objections, the Summary confidently asserts just those findings that support its case. In short, this is advocacy, not assessment.

The UN IPCC WG1 Summary for Policymakers is available at: http://www.meto.gov.uk/sec5/CR_div/ipcc/wg1/




Here's the link to the rest of the report, for IPCC fans...

http://www.john-daly.com/guests/un_ipcc.htm


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PostPosted: November 7 07, 11:47 am 
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MaskedMan wrote:
by David E. Wojick, Ph.D.

LOL. I like how he's using the Ph.D to give himself credibility. Guess what his Ph.D is in? Hint: It's not climate science.


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PostPosted: November 7 07, 11:49 am 
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again, some people are really good at writing propaganda.


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PostPosted: November 7 07, 11:51 am 
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Why are you so against believing that humans are doing harm to the ecosystem that they are living in by releasing incredible amounts of greenhouse gases?

Just curious...but isn't it just better in general to be green and clean?


/CO2 makes the baby Jesus cry


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PostPosted: November 7 07, 12:08 pm 
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pop_haines wrote:
Arthur Dent wrote:
MaskedMan wrote:
by David E. Wojick, Ph.D.

LOL. I like how he's using the Ph.D to give himself credibility. Guess what his Ph.D is in? Hint: It's not climate science.


That is hilarious.

Follow the $$. Always follow the $$.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?ti ... _E._Wojick


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According to a search of 22,000 academic journals, Wojick has not published any research in a peer-reviewed journal on the subject of climate change.


Quote:
Wojick was a scientific advisor [2] for a now-defunct industry front group called the "Greening Earth Society,[3] created by the Western Fuels Association [4], a large US coal industry association. In his role as a "policy analyist," Wojick's client list [5]includes: AES Corporation [6],one of the largest electrical generation companies, with much of that in the form of coal, and Allegheny Energy [7], a company that generates 95% of its power from coal.


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Wojick is listed as "contributing editor" " to Environment and Climate News, a publication of the Heartland Institute, a US think tank at the forefront of the attack on climate change science. Heartland has received over half a million in funding from ExxonMobil, the largest oil company in the world. Wojick lists the Cato Institute and Citizens for a Sound Economy as some of his former "clients." [9]


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PostPosted: November 7 07, 12:10 pm 
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sighyoung wrote:
Leroy wrote:
Avoid tsumanis, move to South Dakota.

On second thought... :-s :-({|=


Any recent grasshopper plagues up there in the last few years?


Yes, they have been very bad. Many people have lost their lives.

But we do have an active theater community.


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PostPosted: November 7 07, 12:16 pm 
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pop_haines wrote:
MaskedMan wrote:


Does anyone read these links?


1) Bob Carter is a climatologist who is employed by the Institute for
Public Affairs. They are funded by Exxon/Mobil.

2) The NZ Climate Science Coalition is also funded by several oil
corporations.

2) Marc Morano has been caught numerous times spewing out bogus
statistics to downplay Global Warming.

Follow the money.





That's the spirit Pop's, good retort, now give these scientists and climatologists a smack who also aren't buying:

Socialist Claude Allegre
Dr. Robert Carter
Dr. Madhov Khandekar
Dr. Vincent Gray of Wellington, New Zealand
Dr. Theodor Landscheidt, Germany
Edwardo Ferreyra, Argentina
Michael O'Rohain, USA
Mark Duchamp, Spain
Dr. Wilson Flood, UK
Slade Barker, USA
Dr. Tim Ball, Canada
Tony Bergantino, Wyoming Climatologist
Dr. Heinz Hug
Max Beran, Britain
Dr. Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen, UK
Dr. James J. O’Brien, Professor of Meteorology and Oceanography at Florida State University, also the State of Florida Climatologist.
Fred Singer May 22, 2001-Professor emeritus of Environmental Sciences-University of Virginia, USA
David E. Wojick, USA
Dr Jarl Ahlbeck, Finland


These signers of the Global Warming Petition Project stating the following:


There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.



Mark O Brien, Jeffrey Oak, Edward Oakes, James Oakes, David Oakeson, Michael Oakey, A G Oaks, Michael J Oard, Michael Oard, Harold Oatfield, Deborah Jean O'Bannon, PhD, Gerald O'Bannon, PhD, Richard D Obarr, PhD, Richard C Obee, Harry A Oberhelman, MD, Donald Oberleas, PhD, Robert B Oberst, Hayward Oblad, PhD, Mark Oblad, Nan Oblad, Allan O'Brien, MD, Daniel Obrien, PhD, Thomas W Obrien, PhD, Dale O'Brien, MD, E J O'Brien, Mark J. O'Brien, Robert O'Brien, Sally G O'Brien, John L Occolowitz, George S Ochsner, John Ochsner P E, Richard L. O'Connell, Paul O'Connor, Richard O'Connor, T A O'Connor, MD, Matthew O'Counell, David Odde, PhD, Mark A Odell, R. D. Odell, Robt D Odell, Arlo L Oden, Ron Oden, Frederick Kirk Odencrantz, PhD, Frederic C E Oder, PhD, George Odoherty, PhD, Charles B Odom, MD, Pat Odom, PhD, Charles Odonell, Michael H Odonnell, Mark O'Donnell, Vencil O' Donnell, Dominick Odorizzi, John A Oeffner, David Oehler, Randy Oehling, Thomas J Oelberg, PhD, Carl Oelze, Ordean S Oen, PhD, Robert A Oetjen, PhD, Charles P Ofarrel, PhD, Randy Offenberger, Marvin L Oftedahl, PhD, Calvin Ogburn, Duncan G Ogden, Lynn Ogden, MD, Richard Ogg, Winston S Ogiluy, PhD, Naomi N Ogimachi, PhD, H M Ogle, Kenneth C Ogle, Pearl R Ogle, PhD, Kenneth Oglesby, Richard B. Oglesby, MD, David J Ogren, Arthur C Ohagan, Norbert W Ohara, PhD, Ernest L Ohle, PhD, Ernie Ohle, PhD, William Ohmstede, Stephen Oivanki, George Ojdrovich, Wm O Keefe, William Olkowski, PhD, Arthur F Okuno, John Olashuk, Steven E Olbrich, PhD, Richard Oldack, Fred B Oldham, MD, Geo A Oldham, Daniel Olds, Frederick Olds, Fredric Olds, Harold O'Leary, PhD, Thomas O'Leary Jr, Edward A Oleata, Stanley Oleksy, MD, Marc C Oler, E Wheeler Oliphant, Bernie D Oliver, Donald A Oliver, Donald B Oliver, PhD, Dottie Oliver, Fred Oliver, Horace G Oliver, Jr, Kelly H Oliver, PhD, Kenneth Leo Oliver, PhD, Lawrence Oliver, PhD, Richard C Oliver, PhD, Thomas K Oliver, PhD, Wm P Oliver, PhD, E Jerry Oliveras, JF Olivier, Roger D. Oleeman, PhD, Richard G Olmstead, Jr, Brent Olsen, John F Olsen, Randy B Olsen, Dale C Olson, Douglas B Olson, PhD, Edwin A Olson, PhD, Gary Olson, Jan Olson, John Olson, Kenneth Olson, Mark Olson, Merrill M Olson, Michael A. Olson, Randy Olson, PhD, Robert J Olson, Ted Olson, Ray A Olsson, MD, James Oltmans I I, Kevin D Olwell, PhD, Michael O'Mara, MD, Thomas O'Mara, MD, Willard D Ommert, DVM, Carlos Omphroy, MD, Andrew Ondish, Joanne M Ondrako, PhD, Adrian O'Neal, Don O'Neal, Joe R O'Neal, Russell O'Neal, PhD, Ryan O'Neal, Wm D E Oneill, PhD, James O'Neil, Michele O'Neil, George F Oneill, PhD, Jeffrey O'Neil, Robert E O'Neill, Marchall F Onellion, PhD, Richard A Onken, Anatoli Onopchenko, PhD, Clinton R Ooten, Joseph W Opie, PhD, Peg Opolski, Gary L. Oppliger, PhD, Erik Opstad, Jonathan M Oram, J A Oravetz III, Roger Orcutt, PhD, Stephen Orcutt, Drew R Van Orden, Anthony Ordile, Michael Ordoyne, Fernando Ore, PhD, Errol Orebaugh, PhD, Gerald J Orehostky, Don N Orelup, MD, Robert Orenstein, MD, David R Orfant, Jane M Orient, MD, W L Orient, William Orlandi, Johathan Orloff, PhD, J Orloski, S. J. Orloski, Robert Ormesher, Cornel G Ormsby, Walter C Ormsby, PhD, Harold A Orndorff, James F Orofino, Brian P O'Rourke, James T O'Rourke, PhD, Gus G Orphanides, PhD, Demetrius G Orphanos, PhD, Andrew A Orr, Thomas E Orr, William V Orr, David A Orser, Ernest Orsi, PhD, William A Orth, PhD, F Ortiz, William Ortloff, Harold R Ortman, DDS, Paul Ortwerth, PhD, Gary Orvis, Brian Osborn, Harold Osborn, Herbert Osborn, PhD, J M Osborn, PhD, James Osborn, John R Osborn, PhD, Osborn, Terrell J Osborn, PhD, Marla Osborne, Paul W Osborne, PhD, Raymond L Osborne Jr, MD, W E Osborne, Stephen S Osder, Bert Osen, Oskoorouichi, PhD, Jeffrey Oslund, Maurice J Osman, Joseph T Osmanski, Duane Ostenson, Charles Oster, Dds, DDS, Charles Osterberg, PhD, Dave Osterhout, George F Osterhout, William Osterloh, PhD, David Osterlund, Robert Osthues, Dan Ostlind, PhD, John Ostrom, PhD, Peter P Ostrowski, PhD, Prosper Ostrowski, Throdore O Osucha, R. Oswald, Osamudiamen M Otabor, Arnold Otchin, Robert Otham, William Orthwein, PhD, Edward O'Toole, PhD, Joseph M O'Toole, Judith O'Toole, Haruko Otoshi, Caarl W Ott, Leo E Ott, PhD, Steve Ott, Wayne Ott, PhD, Wm J Otting, PhD, Craig A Otto, Michael J Otto, PhD, William Otto, William L Otwell, Augustua C Ouano, PhD, Mark Oulundsen, Kevin D Ours, G Out, PhD, Susan B Ouzts, Jacques Ovadia, PhD, Robert Ovellette, J W Overall Jr, Lanny Overby, Donald R Overdorf, Albert W Overhauser, PhD, Rufus M Overlander, F A Overly, David K Overmier, Robert F Overmyer, J David Overton, Mack Overton, Dennis Owen, James R Owen, PhD, Jerry Owen, P.R. Owen, Richard Owen, T D Owen, Terrence Owen, PhD, Fredric N Owens, PhD, John S Owens, Joseph F. Owens, Mark Owens, Phillip P Owens, Thoams Owens, William C Owens, William W Owens, RM Owensby, MD, A D Owings, PhD, Marvin L Oxley, Oyelola, PhD, Jim L Ozbun, PhD, David Ozsvath, PhD



full report is here:

http://www.oism.org/pproject/pproject.htm


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