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 Post subject: Re: cops
PostPosted: December 14 18, 3:48 pm 
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Prolly a good guy


https://www.westword.com/news/denver-co ... o-11062488


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 Post subject: Re: cops
PostPosted: December 19 18, 7:16 pm 
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St. Louis County Staff prosecutors joining police union sends Wesley Bell a message Charles Jaco going off on it.

This is Jeff Roorda's union by the way.

IF this isn't a conflict of interest, prosecutors and police in the same union - what the hell is? Doesn't matter if this is a city policie union, vs St. Louis County. There is enough crossover between these City and County police.

At least the prosecutors being in bed with the police formalizes the arrangement they had under McCulloch.

And McCulloch, was interviewed saying he had nothing to do with this, but understands why his staff would do this -- a supposed threat by incoming prosecutor Wesley Bell.
McCulloch and former County police chief already on record saying Wesley Bell should make a death penalty case for accused of recent Catholic Supply murders (by a gun-nut Trumper)

McCulloch is exiting office through the gutter.

Thus far, the only one showing a lick of class is prosecutor-elect Wesley Bell
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“As a union member, I support and welcome the assistant prosecutors’ right to organize. The choice of the police union raises some questions, though we will work in good faith to minimize any cost to taxpayers or conflicts with the police union that this could represent.”


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 Post subject: Re: cops
PostPosted: December 20 18, 3:02 pm 
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Check out the guy who sodomized and murdered at the Catholic Supply in West County.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... -top-story


Watch the video and then ask yourself why black people think they’re getting [expletive] over by law enforcement (in the event you’re confused about this issue)


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 Post subject: Re: cops
PostPosted: January 25 19, 11:40 am 
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lukethedrifter wrote:
Check out the guy who sodomized and murdered at the Catholic Supply in West County.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... -top-story


Watch the video and then ask yourself why black people think they’re getting [expletive] over by law enforcement (in the event you’re confused about this issue)


No comment?



Also, bad cop? Sloppy policing? Covering up for a bad cop again?

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/jt ... ssion=true


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 Post subject: Re: cops
PostPosted: January 25 19, 3:00 pm 
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lukethedrifter wrote:
lukethedrifter wrote:
Check out the guy who sodomized and murdered at the Catholic Supply in West County.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... -top-story


Watch the video and then ask yourself why black people think they’re getting [expletive] over by law enforcement (in the event you’re confused about this issue)


No comment?



Also, bad cop? Sloppy policing? Covering up for a bad cop again?

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/jt ... ssion=true



That's the first time I have seen that video and there would have been fifteen other cop cars on the scene within thirty seconds to beat the ever loving [expletive] out of a black man if he went on that tirade.

As for the second story, I bring up stuff like that all of the time when I hear somebody say that you'll never have any trouble if you just do whatever an officer says because you won't go to jail if you aren't guilty. Screw that. Every time I hear a story like this one (which is happening quite often these days), I get more and more nervous any time I have to interact with an officer. I probably shouldn't even say "interact" with an officer because I really mean just even acknowledging each other in passing. I haven't had any other interaction with an officer, with the exception of friends who are cops, in years. Heck, I see fat, bald guys with beards everywhere these days. Maybe I should get some crazy face tats and have a second nose grafted onto my forehead so that I don't fit any generic description anymore.

I know I haven't done anything wrong and I don't think I have given anybody a reason to frame me for something but you absolutely can't say that you won't get arrested and potentially lose everything simply because somebody is lazy or terrible at their job.


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 Post subject: Re: cops
PostPosted: January 25 19, 7:05 pm 
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Katlyn Alix and the on-duty officer were playing a version of Russian roulette before she was killed.

https://fox2now.com/2019/01/25/criminal ... ixs-death/


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 Post subject: Re: cops
PostPosted: January 28 19, 12:08 pm 
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MrCrowesGarden wrote:
Katlyn Alix and the on-duty officer were playing a version of Russian roulette before she was killed.

https://fox2now.com/2019/01/25/criminal ... ixs-death/



I'm calling BS on that one. How stupid do they think the public is? Unless they can come up with some unbelievably rock solid evidence, other than the statements from those there at the time, I'm not buying it. Who plays a version Russian Roulette where they point the gun at the other person anyway? That is the opposite of Russian Roulette. There is way more to the story and I honestly believe it is either a result of feelings getting hurt in a love triangle or else they were afraid she was going to rat them out about something they had done/were continuing to do.


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 Post subject: Re: cops
PostPosted: January 28 19, 2:23 pm 
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tlombard wrote:
MrCrowesGarden wrote:
Katlyn Alix and the on-duty officer were playing a version of Russian roulette before she was killed.

https://fox2now.com/2019/01/25/criminal ... ixs-death/



I'm calling BS on that one. How stupid do they think the public is? Unless they can come up with some unbelievably rock solid evidence, other than the statements from those there at the time, I'm not buying it. Who plays a version Russian Roulette where they point the gun at the other person anyway? That is the opposite of Russian Roulette. There is way more to the story and I honestly believe it is either a result of feelings getting hurt in a love triangle or else they were afraid she was going to rat them out about something they had done/were continuing to do.


+1. No one is that stupid. There is way more to this story that will probably never come out. Absolutely bizarre.


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 Post subject: Re: cops
PostPosted: January 28 19, 4:13 pm 
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I was at the bar Friday after work when we heard the news about the charges filed and there were only about ten of us there but the reaction was the same from everybody. Everybody just started shaking their head and suggesting other theories of what might have actually happened. Even the couple of people who believe everything an officer says, no matter how absurd, didn't believe this mess.


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 Post subject: Re: cops
PostPosted: May 1 19, 6:45 am 
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Local case in Mpls - summary:

Woman calls 911 because concerns about an assault in the alley. Cops show up. Woman goes out to meet the cops in the alley. One cop is startled, shoots and kills her. Woman is white, Australian immigrant. Cop is Somali immigrant. Cop was found guilty yesterday of 3rd degree murder and 2nd degree manslaughter.

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2019/04/3 ... or-verdict

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The July 15, 2017 incident began after Ruszczyk, who was also known as Justine Damond, called police that night to report a possible sexual assault in the alley behind her Minneapolis home.

Noor, one of the responding officers, shot and killed her as she approached the police squad vehicle where Noor and his partner, officer Matthew Harrity, sat. Noor shot once from the passenger side, through the driver's side window, hitting Ruszczyk.

• Full coverage: The shooting of Justine Ruszczyk, trial of ex-cop Mohamed Noor

Noor's defense attorneys argued throughout the monthlong trial that he'd fired to protect his terrified partner after hearing a thump on the squad in the alley and then seeing a figure by the driver's side window raising an arm.

"It's a tragedy, but it's not a crime," Noor attorney Thomas Plunkett told jurors Monday.

Prosecutors countered that the thump was a story made up later and that Ruszczyk, approaching the squad in her pajamas that night, could not have been considered a threat.

They presented evidence during the trial that Ruszczyk's fingerprints were not found on the outside of the squad car. Two police use-of-force experts for the prosecution concluded Noor was reckless in his decision to fire.


Conflicting feelings:
- clear excessive use of force and I think he should go to prison
- kind of seems like demographics finally lined up to kind a cop guilty

PTSD can have impacts through generations. Even though Noor immigrated when he was young, his parents likely saw some shtuff in Somalia. My wife is an ESL teacher and she's had lots of Somali students, and she's seen how this plays out.

Regardless, there is maybe one win here, but a whole bunch of losses. The win is the Mpls police have modified policy regarding body cameras so they are supposed to be on for every stop/call. But the losses are many:
- an innocent person was killed
- Somali community feels more marginalized
- not sure how to verbalize impacts to police, but there are detrimental impacts.


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