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PostPosted: March 24 19, 3:37 pm 
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Innocent vs not guilty, etc etc


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PostPosted: March 24 19, 3:44 pm 
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MAGA wrote:
“Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III did not find that Donald Trump’s campaign or any of his associates conspired with Russia in its efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, according to a summary of Mueller’s findings sent to lawmakers Sunday.

“The Special Counsel’s investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election,” says the four-page summary by Attorney General William P. Barr.”

So it was a witch-hunt? LOL


37 indictments but yeah total witch hunt. You are hopeless.


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PostPosted: March 24 19, 5:50 pm 
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This hot take from Dylan Matthews is worth a read. Getting to the heart of the matter:
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This yearning is understandable — but it is both dangerous and misplaced. Ending the Trump presidency will not fix, or even substantially ameliorate, most of the problems plaguing the American political system. They were mounting for years before he took office — indeed, they made him possible — and will continue to plague us for years after he leaves.

And more importantly, as this week clarifies, there will be no dramatic end for Trump. He will not be impeached, at least not the way the Bill Clinton was impeached, following recommendations from an independent prosecutor. He will certainly not be removed from office by a Republican Senate — that’s one prediction I am willing to make as long as Mitch McConnell is majority leader.

If he’s going to leave office, it’s not going to be because the other shoe drops, and some morsel of information about Trump heretofore unknown to the public is going to force him to resign in shame or be forced out. There’s no revelation that can do that when [gesticulates wildly to literally everything that has happened and been revealed since 2015] was not enough.

But read the whole thing. AOC's take was pretty good too. Trump is part of a political problem, and that is best solved through a political solution, not some legal deus ex machina.


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PostPosted: March 24 19, 6:09 pm 
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So we know he's a rapist, a con artist, an adulterer, that he violated campaign finance laws, that he mocks dead people and disabled people, stiffs contractors, is a white supremacist who inspires hate crimes, is a tax dodger and a draft dodger, and so on...but at least he didn't collude to win the election. You can strike that one thing off the list.

I don't think Trump really did conspire to win the election. He just wanted to use his position to make himself more money via another real estate deal. That may also be a crime but not the same thing as "collusion". Saying he tried to cheat to win the election implies he wanted to win it, and I don't think he did. I think he knew winning would be a mixed bag - a chance to make even more money from his position (which he has) but it would also come with waaaaay more scrutiny. So, winning the election came with a lot of risk for him. He could still be undone if Congress decides to go after these other crimes, like emoluments, campaign finance violations, etc, but I'm not holding my breath. Yes, that is a good take from Dylan Matthews


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PostPosted: March 24 19, 6:10 pm 
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This was AOC's take:




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PostPosted: March 24 19, 6:29 pm 
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One side has no interest in addressing the underlying problem. They are the underlying problem. If the Democrats get out of this to pander the right even more this country is [expletive].


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PostPosted: March 24 19, 6:39 pm 
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MAGA wrote:
“Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III did not find that Donald Trump’s campaign or any of his associates conspired with Russia in its efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, according to a summary of Mueller’s findings sent to lawmakers Sunday.

“The Special Counsel’s investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election,” says the four-page summary by Attorney General William P. Barr.”

So it was a witch-hunt? LOL

According to a summary by Trump's own pick for AG.


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PostPosted: March 24 19, 6:48 pm 
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MAGA wrote:
“Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III did not find that Donald Trump’s campaign or any of his associates conspired with Russia in its efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, according to a summary of Mueller’s findings sent to lawmakers Sunday.

“The Special Counsel’s investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election,” says the four-page summary by Attorney General William P. Barr.”

So it was a witch-hunt? LOL

MAGAs pussies are whipped by Trump and HS drinking buddy.LOL nothing new


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PostPosted: March 24 19, 6:52 pm 
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greenback44 wrote:
This hot take from Dylan Matthews is worth a read. Getting to the heart of the matter:
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This yearning is understandable — but it is both dangerous and misplaced. Ending the Trump presidency will not fix, or even substantially ameliorate, most of the problems plaguing the American political system. They were mounting for years before he took office — indeed, they made him possible — and will continue to plague us for years after he leaves.

And more importantly, as this week clarifies, there will be no dramatic end for Trump. He will not be impeached, at least not the way the Bill Clinton was impeached, following recommendations from an independent prosecutor. He will certainly not be removed from office by a Republican Senate — that’s one prediction I am willing to make as long as Mitch McConnell is majority leader.

If he’s going to leave office, it’s not going to be because the other shoe drops, and some morsel of information about Trump heretofore unknown to the public is going to force him to resign in shame or be forced out. There’s no revelation that can do that when [gesticulates wildly to literally everything that has happened and been revealed since 2015] was not enough.

But read the whole thing. AOC's take was pretty good too. Trump is part of a political problem, and that is best solved through a political solution, not some legal deus ex machina.

yeah, but pay no mind to the law, constitution et c. next time we get a non-reality TV show Orange Bumpkin and instead a full-fledged Nazi taking adv of unchecked pres powers established under Orange bumpkin precedent.

There is a reason civilized nations have laws.

Voting is over rated as a legal recouse.. otherwise we'd arguably still have slavery. Voting is a popularity contest, bastardized.


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PostPosted: March 24 19, 7:32 pm 
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This was AOC's take:




Yes X a billion. This is what I've been saying for like 3 years. The problem is not Trump. The problem is Trump voters.


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