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 Post subject: Josh Hawley
PostPosted: August 1 19, 10:14 am 
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His social media bill is bonkers. Rest of the thread is also worth a read:

The tweeter is a libertarian I think, so that colors some of the commentary, but she's mostly right on.



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A Vox Explained article on the bill


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That the scientific literature is not available about cognitive impacts of social media is not established is surprising. Examing my own experience, I have little doubt the internet even before social media has been hell on my attention span and ability to direct my time to the things I would like to direct it to.


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hawley
PostPosted: August 1 19, 10:59 am 
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That the scientific literature is not available about cognitive impacts of social media is not established is surprising. Examing my own experience, I have little doubt the internet even before social media has been hell on my attention span and ability to direct my time to the things I would like to direct it to.

Same here.

On some of my longer reads, I like to think I bail on because I am getting older and am paring down what I commit to. Same for some time consuming chores, I value my time differently -i used to do some marathon painting or moulding projects around the house. Ef that unless it's necessity.

The downside is these easy internet time wasters pile up.

Plus side is internet and tech has vastly improved work efficiency. (Taxes etc) That I spent years doing things by hand, or looking thru things by analog, helps utilize the tech shortcuts now(I know the buzzwords. I have more time to waste in the routine.
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Back on point, Josh Hawley is an obvious ass with a joke of an angle here -to appeal to mindsets of it all is going to hell in a handbasket. (It has been going to hell on a handbasket since the beginning of time )

This bill is relatable to Trump fake populism of bringing back coal for jobs , turn back the clock to good ole days. Days that never were good and can never really come back.


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hawley
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Arthur Dent wrote:
That the scientific literature is not available about cognitive impacts of social media is not established is surprising. Examing my own experience, I have little doubt the internet even before social media has been hell on my attention span and ability to direct my time to the things I would like to direct it to.


Not sure what it says about me, but I feel like Twitter the last few years has probably enabled me to direct my time to learning about things I want to know more about. Politics, but certain accounts I've learned a lot about movies which has been a lifelong interest. I've always been more of a reader than a doer though, so maybe that's part of it.

I'm not sure about my attention span, because that's always been terrible. So maybe it suits me. Which isn't to say it's not harmful in ways I'm not aware of.

I'm not opposed to some health oriented regulation of these services, but these approaches from that Vox article sound like a better way to go

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Andrew Przybylski, a University of Oxford psychologist and public skeptic of social media addiction, told Recode in an email that Hawley’s bill is a “silly and practically unworkable idea” and said it might distract from more effective regulation.

“It’s important that social media companies begin participating in large-scale transparent studies with independent scientists,” he said. “Until Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube have to share their data, we’re not going to get anywhere.”

Another proposed law in Congress, the CAMRA Act, sponsored by Sen. Ed Markey (D-MA), is trying to promote a data-driven approach to investigating the idea of social media addiction. The legislation would authorize the National Institutes of Health to head a research program on the effects of technology and the media on children. The legislation has five cosponsors, including three Republicans.


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hawley
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Most importantly, it comes from Hawley. Anything introduced or pushed by Josh Hawley should be looked at extremely skeptically.

That said, though like Ghostrunner, I am more informed because of the types of SM I choose to follow, it seems quite likely that the overall effect is to decrease our ability to process complex information.
As someone who probably would have been diagnosed with ADD/ADHD had i been born 10 years later, I was already predisposed to my mind wandering, struggling to maintain focus on what i was doing. Or reading.
What I believe would have helped me most was not Ritalin (though maybe as amphetamines/cocaine slowed my mind) but someone/something to redirect me back.

Point being, seems we’re building ADD into people these days.


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ghostrunner wrote:
Arthur Dent wrote:
That the scientific literature is not available about cognitive impacts of social media is not established is surprising. Examing my own experience, I have little doubt the internet even before social media has been hell on my attention span and ability to direct my time to the things I would like to direct it to.


Not sure what it says about me, but I feel like Twitter the last few years has probably enabled me to direct my time to learning about things I want to know more about. Politics, but certain accounts I've learned a lot about movies which has been a lifelong interest. I've always been more of a reader than a doer though, so maybe that's part of it.

I'm not sure about my attention span, because that's always been terrible. So maybe it suits me. Which isn't to say it's not harmful in ways I'm not aware of.

I'm not opposed to some health oriented regulation of these services, but these approaches from that Vox article sound like a better way to go

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Andrew Przybylski, a University of Oxford psychologist and public skeptic of social media addiction, told Recode in an email that Hawley’s bill is a “silly and practically unworkable idea” and said it might distract from more effective regulation.

“It’s important that social media companies begin participating in large-scale transparent studies with independent scientists,” he said. “Until Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube have to share their data, we’re not going to get anywhere.”

Another proposed law in Congress, the CAMRA Act, sponsored by Sen. Ed Markey (D-MA), is trying to promote a data-driven approach to investigating the idea of social media addiction. The legislation would authorize the National Institutes of Health to head a research program on the effects of technology and the media on children. The legislation has five cosponsors, including three Republicans.

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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hawley
PostPosted: September 26 19, 3:53 pm 
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Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo, tweeted on Tuesday that “we face a crisis on the southern border, a crisis of meth pouring into our towns, a crisis of youth suicide, an epic fight with China for our jobs and maybe our national security — and the Democrats’ top priority is to ... impeach.” 

“Says it all,” Hawley concluded


GOP controls govt and has for some time.

Also, Nixon impeachment was underway with during Vietnam and the whole gamut of other crisis. And the GOP was behind this process.


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hawley
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I couldn't find a thread to stick this. I found this searching whether my MO reps had anything new to say about their hero king Trump. The only opposition GOP has to Trump and his appointees is when they aren't [expletive] crazy enough.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/26/josh-hawley-judicial-nominee-1513793

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conservatives have been skeptical of his credentials, specifically his ruling in favor of dismissing a challenge to the Affordable Care Act’s contraception coverage mandate, which he deemed premature.

Hawley is citing that ruling in his opposition to Ozerden, the source said; 


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hawley
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This [expletive] neo-nazi nitwit is in a feud with a WaPo columnist. Take a look if your bored. Hawley continues to play up his phoney rural Heartland values. He says he is is a rural MissourAh-ian but is son of a banker went to all boys school Rockhurst, Stanford for college.

A pal to Eric Greitens and Donald Trump. Ann Wagner, Roy Blunt, Josh Hawley -My laughingstock state representation.


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