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PostPosted: March 15 18, 10:15 am 
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I don't think they're screwed, but....why why why why why?



Maybe you could, I don't know, at least bargain for something in exchange?

A fair number are probably going to vote for the torture overseer to head the CIA. We'll see.


Without looking into it, is there anything wrong with this nominee, other than that he's been nominated by Trump?

Reflexively opposing everything Trump does just because it's Trump isn't much of a strategy for Democrats.


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PostPosted: March 15 18, 10:23 am 
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Reflexively opposing everything Trump does just because it's Trump isn't much of a strategy for Democrats.

And can make life difficult for red state Senate Democrats in November this year.

Joe Donnelly (IN) votes with Trump roughly 54% of the time; Rand Paul and Susan Collins are 75% of the time (lowest GOP). Elizabeth Warren (9%) wouldn't get elected in Indiana. Todd Young (94%) did. Who is better for the US in the senate? Donnelly or Young?


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PostPosted: March 15 18, 11:06 am 
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vinsanity wrote:
G. Keenan wrote:
Reflexively opposing everything Trump does just because it's Trump isn't much of a strategy for Democrats.

And can make life difficult for red state Senate Democrats in November this year.

Joe Donnelly (IN) votes with Trump roughly 54% of the time; Rand Paul and Susan Collins are 75% of the time (lowest GOP). Elizabeth Warren (9%) wouldn't get elected in Indiana. Todd Young (94%) did. Who is better for the US in the senate? Donnelly or Young?


I suppose in this case they didn't have any leverage. Looks like it would have split with Pence deciding. Even so, we just had a vote of DACA where the President made zero concessions. I don't think a Democrat should approve any CBP head without concessions on that issue.

Donnelly's voted no on almost all of Trump's major appointments. I don't see why any other confirmation vote would have any effect. Except Gorsuch maybe, who he did approve.


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G. Keenan wrote:
ghostrunner wrote:
I don't think they're screwed, but....why why why why why?



Maybe you could, I don't know, at least bargain for something in exchange?

A fair number are probably going to vote for the torture overseer to head the CIA. We'll see.


Without looking into it, is there anything wrong with this nominee, other than that he's been nominated by Trump?

Reflexively opposing everything Trump does just because it's Trump isn't much of a strategy for Democrats.



Yes they should. Shut this [expletive] country down. We can not allow the traitors to govern like it's ok. The bargaining chip needs to be not a [expletive] thing happens in this country until the traitors are removed from office. Period. These people get put into office and they enact their totalitarian style government and move us one step closer to never having a legitimate country again.

[expletive] these people and [expletive] anyone who still supports them. Quit trying to appease them and quit pretending any Trump supporter is ever voting for a democrat.

McCabe just got fired, guess what Mueller is next, and nothing happens when he does. We are on the brink here and there is only one way we come back. We have to stand for what is right and completely shut down all the traitors.


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