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PostPosted: June 11 18, 9:57 am 
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Imagine if Obama had etc. etc.



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PostPosted: June 11 18, 10:40 am 
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Imagine if Obama had etc. etc.


with the US own human rights issues how can we


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PostPosted: June 11 18, 10:42 am 
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Freed Roger wrote:
ghostrunner wrote:
Imagine if Obama had etc. etc.


with the US own human rights issues how can we


Oh sure, but that would be the line, and it stopped serious discussion with Cuba for years.


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We'll that was easy. Next stop, Oslo!


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The photo ops are grander than they need to be, but I do get annoyed at the idea that sharing a stage with Kim is some grave error in and of itself. The worry that you "legitimize" him by talking to him or whatever. The error is the person we've elected to go talk to him.


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The photo ops are grander than they need to be, but I do get annoyed at the idea that sharing a stage with Kim is some grave error in and of itself. The worry that you "legitimize" him by talking to him or whatever. The error is the person we've elected to go talk to him.


Agree. I've long thought the US put up too many obstacles to a meeting with NK. OTOH, I was worried that Trump jumped into it too quickly, but this is one of Trump's actions for which I have cautious optimism and support (not sure there's a second).


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ghostrunner wrote:
The photo ops are grander than they need to be, but I do get annoyed at the idea that sharing a stage with Kim is some grave error in and of itself. The worry that you "legitimize" him by talking to him or whatever. The error is the person we've elected to go talk to him.



To be fair, we elected Obama (the guy that would have been my preference) twice. He never talked to him. I'm not saying it's his fault (maybe it is..... I'm not sure), but I wish HE could have been the guy doing this.


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