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PostPosted: November 19 18, 8:22 pm 
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This is pretty good:
The Democrats’ White-People Problem

Basically, there is a lot of analysis here but the main point here (it is point #4 in the article) is this: Racism Is a White Problem, Not a Working-Class Problem

It doesn't say it this way but this is kind of my take on it. Virtually all white people are racist to some degree or another, even the wealthy, elite white people. But the elites generally get to pretend that they aren't racist, and instead blame all poor white people for racism. What is infuriating about this is that it is the rich people who have benefitted the most from systemic racism, whether they themselves are virulent racists or not. Somehow or other we have to communicate this to the white working class, that they are also victims of this same system that these smug, wealthy jerks are profiting from.


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PostPosted: February 13 19, 9:32 pm 
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You really need to see the part that starts right near the 7 minute mark


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PostPosted: February 14 19, 8:46 am 
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Diaz Barragan had that one coming. You don't sit on a panel with two black women and say that racism exists in America because of Donald Trump. What the woman who put her in her place could have said is "it's not because of Donald Trump, it's because of Donald Trump voters.,, their parents, their parents' parents, their parents' parents' parents."


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PostPosted: February 14 19, 10:58 am 
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33anda3rd wrote:
Diaz Barragan had that one coming. You don't sit on a panel with two black women and say that racism exists in America because of Donald Trump. What the woman who put her in her place could have said is "it's not because of Donald Trump, it's because of Donald Trump voters.,, their parents, their parents' parents, their parents' parents' parents."

Hard disagree. It’s because the US hasn’t dealt with the inherent racism of its culture and institutions. Not just Trump voters and their parents etc.


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PostPosted: February 20 19, 2:18 pm 
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Just saw that video, Pioneer. Good stuff. Thanks!


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PostPosted: June 18 19, 2:39 pm 
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This is really good

No, I Won’t Stop Saying “White Supremacy”

It's long but it does have a baseball example:

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Take, for example, the Jackie Robinson story. Robinson is often celebrated as “the first African American to break the color line and play in major-league baseball.” While Robinson was certainly an amazing ballplayer, this story line depicts Robinson as racially special; a black man who broke that color line himself. The subtext is that Robinson finally had what it took to play with whites, as if no black athlete before him was strong enough to compete at that level. Imagine if instead, the story went something like this: “Jackie Robinson, the first black man whites allowed to play major-league baseball.” This is a critical distinction because no matter how fantastic a player Robinson was, he simply could not play in the major leagues if whites—who control the institution—did not allow it. Were he to walk onto the field before being granted permission by white owners and policymakers, the police would have removed him.

Narratives of racial exceptionality obscure the reality of ongoing institutional white control while reinforcing the ideologies of individualism and meritocracy. They also do whites a disservice by obscuring the white allies behind the scenes who worked hard and long to open the field to African American players. These allies could serve as much needed role-models for other whites (although we also need to acknowledge that in the case of the desegregation of baseball, there was an economic incentive for these allies).


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PostPosted: June 18 19, 3:07 pm 
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I don't get the Jackie Robinson example. I think almost everyone views him as the first black player that was ALLOWED to play in MLB, and not the first black player that was good enough. I've never witnessed any confusion about that, on any level.


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PostPosted: June 18 19, 3:52 pm 
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Words matter. Even if it is subconsciously. We are all pretty familiar with the story by now, so we can see through the subtly, but to someone who doesn't know much about the history of the game, and the racist history of our nation, can you not see the difference???

A: “the first African American to break the color line and play in major-league baseball.”

B: “the first black man whites allowed to play major-league baseball.”


It's obvious that phrasing A puts the focus on Robinson instead of the white-controlled MLB. Phrasing B *clearly* puts the onus on white people & MLB.

Racism is an insidious beast. It permeates everything in our nation whether we choose to see it or not.


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PostPosted: June 18 19, 9:08 pm 
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GeddyWrox wrote:
Racism is an insidious beast. It permeates everything in our nation whether we choose to see it or not.

Absolutely, Geddy.

I really don't care for the term White Privilege with the confusion and dissension it causes.

However, this situation, with a white supremacist president and GOP rulers - being able to ignore it, make false equivalency to prior times, and tune it all out - it is only because of some sort of privilege (not necessarily white, but it is often,) that allows us to do so.


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