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 Post subject: Voter Suppression
PostPosted: June 12 18, 9:58 am 
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Deserves its own specific thread. Right up there with income inequality, race/gender inequality, the War On Truth, and the care of the environment as the biggest political issues of the day IMO.

Purging voter rolls in Ohio because someone has not voted in 2 years and didn't reply to mail is [expletive] scandalous. It's worse than the vaginal grabbing, the torrent of lies, and the rest of it because it exists entirely to halt the ability of the citizens to get rid of the vagina-grabbing compulsive liar, which is a vital part of our Constitution. That's not us, that's not our democracy. If you miss a midterm or local election (almost all of us with busy lives have) and then don't reply to a single piece of mail, that is no reason to strip someone of the most important right they have in this country.


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 Post subject: Re: Voter Suppression
PostPosted: June 12 18, 10:03 am 
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Deserves its own specific thread. Right up there with income inequality, race/gender inequality, the War On Truth, and the care of the environment as the biggest political issues of the day IMO.

Purging voter rolls in Ohio because someone has not voted in 2 years and didn't reply to mail is [expletive] scandalous. It's worse than the vaginal grabbing, the torrent of lies, and the rest of it because it exists entirely to halt the ability of the citizens to get rid of the vagina-grabbing compulsive liar, which is a vital part of our Constitution. That's not us, that's not our democracy. If you miss a midterm or local election (almost all of us with busy lives have) and then don't reply to a single piece of mail, that is no reason to strip someone of the most important right they have in this country.

I understand what is driving this purging, but I don't have the visceral reaction to it you do. If that's the rules, OK, that's the rules. Some democracies (see Australia) MAKE you show up to the polls even if you aren't going to vote. That's the other extreme.

If the rule is you have to vote in at least one election every two years, sounds OK to me. It means your team needs to role up its sleeves and get your voters to the polls. Allow time and effort to do that. Train your voters in how important it is. Don't let these scumbags roll you, meet their challenge and beat their asses at the ballot box.


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 Post subject: Re: Voter Suppression
PostPosted: June 12 18, 10:09 am 
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Yes, but voter motivation changes from election to election. If black folks in Alabama, motivated to vote against the kiddie - [expletive] racist, didn't get to vote we'd have a kiddie - [expletive] racist in the senate.

That's exactly what this is trying to accomplish. Take the people who are often disenfranchised enough not to vote, then make sure they can't when the care enough to do so.


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 Post subject: Re: Voter Suppression
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I can't think of any reason why it makes sense to purge anyone simply for inactivity. Not voting is a valid choice, as much as I hate it. If those are the rules, they need changed. Default should be that you're registered and eligible to vote, and they need a reason for you to be deregistered. Moved away, died, etc...


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 Post subject: Re: Voter Suppression
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Trump opposition has inspired a lot of voter turnout from people who rarely vote all over the country in local and state-wide elections. They want as many of those people as possible to show up thinking they're good to go only to get turned away. Simple as that. Republicans are very good at over-performing demographic and opinion polling because they are ruthless and organized. And they hate democracy.


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 Post subject: Re: Voter Suppression
PostPosted: June 12 18, 10:17 am 
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When it comes to the vote, we’re fighting a second Civil War
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This isn’t an accident. As The New York Times reports, conservatives have openly stated for years that they do better when fewer people vote. In the South under segregation, the power structure used any number of tricks — poll taxes, and special quizzes, intimidation and just plain murder — to keep blacks from voting. Now, Republicans are clear that they must suppress the vote if they are to keep power. As professor Donald Jones stated at a Florida hearing of the National Commission for Voter Justice, “When it comes to the vote, we are in the Second Civil War.”

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The NCVJ found that systematic efforts are underway to make voting more difficult in state after state. Voter purging and voter caging is being conducted on a much larger scale since 2016 than is popularly recognized.

In Georgia in 2017, 320,000 voters who had been purged from the voter rolls had to file a lawsuit to regain the right to vote. In Florida, black voters are being purged after being labeled “inactive,” by not responding to a mail request for confirmation of address. The Interstate Crosscheck System, invented by Republican attorneys, is used by 27 states and is estimated to lead to the wrongful purging of hundreds of thousands of voters.

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tates also work to make voting harder. They limit the days of early voting, reduce the number of polling places, leading to long lines and frustrated voters, and relocate polling places to distant communities. Georgia is notorious for moving polling sites from black communities to inaccessible locations with poor advance notice. Ex-felons who have served their sentence are still disenfranchised in Florida and other states; student face more and more barriers designed to keep them from voting.

Republican state legislators have pushed to pass voter ID laws across the country; 34 states now enforce these laws. Eleven percent of U.S. citizens — 21 million people — lack a governmental issued photo ID, the ACLU reports. One in four African-Americans lacks this form of ID. The Government Accountability Office found that strict photo ID laws reduce turnout by 2 to 3 percent.


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 Post subject: Re: Voter Suppression
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To recap: Florida voters passed a referendum restoring the right to vote to felons who had done their time. That scared the heck out of R's in Florida's state legislature, so they curbed the referendum through "Amendment 4" to require felons "pay off their obligations" before their voting rights are in fact restored. This is effectively a poll tax.

Except it's 2019, when you have Kickstarter and GoFundMe and the like. I'm not sure what to make of this site in particular. But it seems like if you're a liberal billionaire, there's an obvious way to buy thousands of votes in a swing state.


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 Post subject: Re: Voter Suppression
PostPosted: June 29 19, 11:53 pm 
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This film is coming out later this year. It is all about voter suppression in Georgia, when Republicans blatantly stole that last election.

https://www.bravenewfilms.org/suppressed



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