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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Arabia
PostPosted: November 15 18, 11:36 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Arabia
PostPosted: November 15 18, 12:33 pm 
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Well sure. Gotta placate our Saudi buddies


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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Arabia
PostPosted: November 16 18, 7:37 pm 
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CIA Concludes Saudi Journalist Was Killed on Crown Prince’s Order
U.S. assessment contradicts Saudi version of Khashoggi killing and may endanger President Trump’s efforts to protect ties with Prince Mohammed


https://www.wsj.com/articles/cia-conclu ... 1542412388

but hey, since our intelligence is deep state, don't believe this. listen to MAGA chuds (hey jim)


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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Arabia
PostPosted: November 16 18, 8:21 pm 
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Jocephus wrote:
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CIA Concludes Saudi Journalist Was Killed on Crown Prince’s Order
U.S. assessment contradicts Saudi version of Khashoggi killing and may endanger President Trump’s efforts to protect ties with Prince Mohammed


https://www.wsj.com/articles/cia-conclu ... 1542412388

but hey, since our intelligence is deep state, don't believe this. listen to MAGA chuds (hey jim)



Look, I hate one and like the other, one is an apocalyptic disaster and one is not: but I'm not sure Obama would have behaved much differently here--at least practically. Our leaders' raging boner for SA is bipartisan and super thirsty. One of the few things that transcends HOPE and MAGA.

Still though, I look forward to the joint press conference when Trump [expletive] all over our intelligence, free speech, and any hope of a future.


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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Arabia
PostPosted: November 16 18, 8:52 pm 
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BottenFieldofDreams wrote:
Jocephus wrote:
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CIA Concludes Saudi Journalist Was Killed on Crown Prince’s Order
U.S. assessment contradicts Saudi version of Khashoggi killing and may endanger President Trump’s efforts to protect ties with Prince Mohammed


https://www.wsj.com/articles/cia-conclu ... 1542412388

but hey, since our intelligence is deep state, don't believe this. listen to MAGA chuds (hey jim)



Look, I hate one and like the other, one is an apocalyptic disaster and one is not: but I'm not sure Obama would have behaved much differently here--at least practically. Our leaders' raging boner for SA is bipartisan and super thirsty. One of the few things that transcends HOPE and MAGA.

Still though, I look forward to the joint press conference when Trump [expletive] all over our intelligence, free speech, and any hope of a future.


Yeah, I understand US has a historical boner for SA.
What are you basing this on W/r/t Obama? options are limited, but Orange dumb [expletive] limited them further a long time ago with that sausage fest visit to SA, and basically dismissing this all weeks ago. Nobody is as dumb as Trump-MAGA, much less Obama in this plot. Autocratic Turkey certainly knows how to play SA here.

BTW, during Obama years the US Oil and Natural gas production went fracking nuts. This could be a whole other debate about environmental issues. But, if anything, it gained some leverage against SA and other oil producing nations in Middle East as wells as Venezuala and Russia.


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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Arabia
PostPosted: November 17 18, 12:44 am 
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I didn't mean it in any Fox News "yeah... but OBAMA" way. Just to point out we have a long track record of selling them guns and being lapdogs. Even without America First stable geniuses.


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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Arabia
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likely true but i don't trust trump to do *anything* right and every time i see that [expletive] troll username on this board i get angry


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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Arabia
PostPosted: November 17 18, 11:20 am 
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At least the avatar appears to be gone. I had stopped visiting at work, worried about what kind of forum board co-workers might think I was visiting. So... pretty fgood trolling I guess.


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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Arabia
PostPosted: November 20 18, 2:15 pm 
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This is an actual release from the White House. Remarkable how simpleminded this man is, and how completely stupid our foreign policy is as a result. Iran, North Korea, Russia et al are running circles around us with this moron in charge.

Statement from President Donald J. Trump on Standing with Saudi Arabia

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America First!

The world is a very dangerous place!

The country of Iran, as an example, is responsible for a bloody proxy war against Saudi Arabia in Yemen, trying to destabilize Iraq’s fragile attempt at democracy, supporting the terror group Hezbollah in Lebanon, propping up dictator Bashar Assad in Syria (who has killed millions of his own citizens), and much more. Likewise, the Iranians have killed many Americans and other innocent people throughout the Middle East. Iran states openly, and with great force, “Death to America!” and “Death to Israel!” Iran is considered “the world’s leading sponsor of terror.”

On the other hand, Saudi Arabia would gladly withdraw from Yemen if the Iranians would agree to leave. They would immediately provide desperately needed humanitarian assistance. Additionally, Saudi Arabia has agreed to spend billions of dollars in leading the fight against Radical Islamic Terrorism.

After my heavily negotiated trip to Saudi Arabia last year, the Kingdom agreed to spend and invest $450 billion in the United States. This is a record amount of money. It will create hundreds of thousands of jobs, tremendous economic development, and much additional wealth for the United States. Of the $450 billion, $110 billion will be spent on the purchase of military equipment from Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon and many other great U.S. defense contractors. If we foolishly cancel these contracts, Russia and China would be the enormous beneficiaries – and very happy to acquire all of this newfound business. It would be a wonderful gift to them directly from the United States!

The crime against Jamal Khashoggi was a terrible one, and one that our country does not condone. Indeed, we have taken strong action against those already known to have participated in the murder. After great independent research, we now know many details of this horrible crime. We have already sanctioned 17 Saudis known to have been involved in the murder of Mr. Khashoggi, and the disposal of his body.

Representatives of Saudi Arabia say that Jamal Khashoggi was an “enemy of the state” and a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, but my decision is in no way based on that – this is an unacceptable and horrible crime. King Salman and Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman vigorously deny any knowledge of the planning or execution of the murder of Mr. Khashoggi. Our intelligence agencies continue to assess all information, but it could very well be that the Crown Prince had knowledge of this tragic event – maybe he did and maybe he didn’t!

That being said, we may never know all of the facts surrounding the murder of Mr. Jamal Khashoggi. In any case, our relationship is with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. They have been a great ally in our very important fight against Iran. The United States intends to remain a steadfast partner of Saudi Arabia to ensure the interests of our country, Israel and all other partners in the region. It is our paramount goal to fully eliminate the threat of terrorism throughout the world!

I understand there are members of Congress who, for political or other reasons, would like to go in a different direction – and they are free to do so. I will consider whatever ideas are presented to me, but only if they are consistent with the absolute security and safety of America. After the United States, Saudi Arabia is the largest oil producing nation in the world. They have worked closely with us and have been very responsive to my requests to keeping oil prices at reasonable levels – so important for the world. As President of the United States I intend to ensure that, in a very dangerous world, America is pursuing its national interests and vigorously contesting countries that wish to do us harm.

Very simply it is called America First!


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 Post subject: Re: Saudi Arabia
PostPosted: November 20 18, 2:22 pm 
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Iran is considered “the world’s leading sponsor of terror.”

On the other hand, Saudi Arabia...


Just wow


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