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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Election
PostPosted: March 8 19, 8:33 am 
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I want the nominee to pick a Veep who can pull a demographic—a southern state, rust belt voters, women, Hispanic, whatever—who would be fine if POTUS had a coronary but also who is on the backside of their career and who wouldn’t be more valuable legislating.


Brown is pretty popular in Ohio, but it will be hard to beat Trump there. However I think he would have rust belt pull in neighboring PA and MI, which are the main states the Dems need to flip.


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Election
PostPosted: March 8 19, 9:44 am 
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Not Tim Kaine, no. HRC prob wins VA anyway based on the population near DC and Kaine was useless as a Veep candidate..


What? Don't you want to lock up the NVCWISJCRC - Northern Virginia Chapter of Women's Independent Social Justice Catholic Reading Club. ??


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Election
PostPosted: March 8 19, 3:38 pm 
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33anda3rd wrote:
I want the nominee to pick a Veep who can pull a demographic—a southern state, rust belt voters, women, Hispanic, whatever—who would be fine if POTUS had a coronary but also who is on the backside of their career and who wouldn’t be more valuable legislating.


Brown is pretty popular in Ohio, but it will be hard to beat Trump there. However I think he would have rust belt pull in neighboring PA and MI, which are the main states the Dems need to flip.


Just based on the change from 2016 and 2018 I'd call both PA and MI more likely to go blue than red in 2020 at this point. Those Senate races went from Trump winning both states by a combined ~50K votes (about 10K in MI) to the Dem Senate Candidates winning by a combined 1MM votes in 2018. A large part of that is educated female suburban voters--Trump killed it in the white parts around Detroit. He won Macomb County 224,665 - 176,317. Debbie Stabenow in the Senate race last year, a Dem, won 179,975 - 173,369. That's basically 3K more voting Dem and 51K GOP staying home, +/- whatever is actually a crossover vote. MI is in play, big time, with or without Sherrod Brown, just on that one county where enough people from a wealthy white suburb, which is a county that voted Obama twice, had a come-to-Jesus moment over Trump in the last 2 years.


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Election
PostPosted: March 10 19, 1:38 pm 
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I don't think I've seen this from Chait here:
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The utopian ambitions of the Democratic party’s left wing have attracted a lot of criticism, much of it justified, for lacking any realistic prospects for enactment. But no idea put forth by Bernie Sanders or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is as harebrained or fantastical as the promise peddled by numerous leading Democrats that they will revive bipartisanship.

The filibuster is becoming a litmus test for me for reasons Chait lays out. Well, it also seems like we need a parliamentary system of government, but that's somewhat more ambitious.


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Election
PostPosted: March 10 19, 6:18 pm 
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Right now, CNN is airing the live Town Halls from Austin. Delaney was up earlier, Gabbard is on now and Buttigieg at the top of the hour.


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Election
PostPosted: March 11 19, 9:19 am 
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Politico is reporting Milwaukee will host the 2020 DNC, housing will be interesting, great to see. Looking forward to attending. Regret not trying to attend Chicago in '96, of course I was more anarchist than socialist then.

BTW, great job by Buttigieg last night.


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Election
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Politico is reporting Milwaukee will host the 2020 DNC, housing will be interesting, great to see. Looking forward to attending. Regret not trying to attend Chicago in '96, of course I was more anarchist than socialist then.
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Crazy stuff can happen anywhere, but I can't help but imagine higher chance of it happening in Milwaukee, with the pre-existing divide and zealotry. WI GOP still has clout and open scorn for democracy.

The police will have a few more People of Color to pull over.


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Election
PostPosted: March 12 19, 8:54 am 
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Pretty good article about Bernie and his struggle on racial issues

‘This Is Not 2016’: What People Don’t Get About Bernie Sanders and Race
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Though Sanders lost a majority of the black vote in the 2016 Democratic primaries, he did win a majority of black (and Latino) voters under age 35 in several states. All over the country, when I talked with black voters, they revealed the same generational differences you’d expect to hear from, well, white voters. Like any other group, the way black voters think about issues like the economy or policing is directly influenced by the times in which they came of age. Living through the war on drugs or the economic boom of the ’90s might mean you see the world a bit differently than younger voters who grew up during the Great Recession and birth of the Black Lives Matter movement. (Any candidate who wants to win, say, the 2020 South Carolina primary, needs to understand the nuance that can exist within a voting bloc that many outside observers deem monolithic.)

Even so, the questions about Sanders and race never faded. And already, issues of race are again dogging him as he mounts a 2020 effort.


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 Post subject: Re: 2020 Election
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beto is in


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