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Lesser of 2 evils
Donald Trump 33%  33%  [ 5 ]
Dick Cheney 67%  67%  [ 10 ]
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PostPosted: May 8 19, 2:58 pm 
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Trump: makes his "I am the evilest" case pretty much every day. He's also a political idiot.

Cheney: likes to torture people and is politically savvy.


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 Post subject: Re: Lesser of 2 evils
PostPosted: May 8 19, 3:02 pm 
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The Bush administration was so much worse than this and they got away with it because the left was still neutered by the Reagan years and we all thought W seemed like a good dude to "get a beer" with whatever the [expletive] that means.


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 Post subject: Re: Lesser of 2 evils
PostPosted: May 8 19, 3:23 pm 
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I said Cheney is less because Trump is open about it all, the racism. The graft, the disdain for the law.

Paying lip service to peoples' rights, the law, ethical separation of govt from personal gain, and decency etc at least counts for something in the long view. Even if it was fake under Cheney, in formality at least there was a right or wrong -and that allows the democracy to keep going and withstand his regime.

Trump having total disdain for the US leads to unabashed racism, rise of right wing violence etc etc. has led to all this. Couple it with his stupidity to retweet [expletive] from Fox News and neo nazis, as well as his insatiable need for graft, we have nearly every govt office under his cabinet as a complete unethucal [expletive] show. dept of Educ, EPA, dept of labor(Acosta ffs), interior.


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 Post subject: Re: Lesser of 2 evils
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Chaney was lesser, but not by much. He at least didn't try to (succeed at?) completely dismantle democracy at Putin's behest.


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 Post subject: Re: Lesser of 2 evils
PostPosted: May 8 19, 3:33 pm 
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I don't know who to vote for. They're both first ballot inductees to the HOE.


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 Post subject: Re: Lesser of 2 evils
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 Post subject: Re: Lesser of 2 evils
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So far, Bush/Cheney are worse because we've seen how their two wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have played out, and both are complete catastrophes that have sapped our nation's strength forever, empowered our enemies like Iran and Russia, and created new terrorist groups all across the region like whack-a-moles.

But Trump is getting there fast on foreign policy, and domestically he is a million times worse. The white nationalist and anti-immigrant stuff he his pushing is absolute poison for our country. And a hundred other things we could all list.


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 Post subject: Re: Lesser of 2 evils
PostPosted: May 9 19, 10:17 am 
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I’ll say Cheney, because I think he at least felt like he was doing the right thing for America (and his wallet). As twisted as we may think that was.

Trump is completely amoral. A troll. A con-man. He just doesn’t care other than fueling his ego.


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 Post subject: Re: Lesser of 2 evils
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...is still evil. My vote is Leroy. damn them both to hell.


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 Post subject: Re: Lesser of 2 evils
PostPosted: May 9 19, 12:40 pm 
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It's not so much that one is worse than the other. It's a different flavor of evil. Cheney/Bush caused way more death and destruction but Trump still has time to catch up, and he's been worse in other ways.


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