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PostPosted: June 4 19, 2:27 pm 
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I love New England. Something interesting about that area, mills used to crank out a lot of paper, and manufacturing was big and that's largely gone in its old form but the median household income in NH in 2017 was over $73K, 7th in the US. Why? They invested in SMHT (Smart Manufacturing/High Technology) and lots of people work in it. It is accountable for 1 out of every $5 in wages in NH now. They're not pissing and moaning about lost coal jobs or lost auto jobs or lost oil jobs they're finding new industries and jobs.

Their big challenge is coming soon, since 1/3 of the state is boomers.


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I love New England. Something interesting about that area, mills used to crank out a lot of paper, and manufacturing was big and that's largely gone in its old form but the median household income in NH in 2017 was over $73K, 7th in the US. Why? They invested in SMHT (Smart Manufacturing/High Technology) and lots of people work in it. It is accountable for 1 out of every $5 in wages in NH now. They're not pissing and moaning about lost coal jobs or lost auto jobs or lost oil jobs they're finding new industries and jobs.

Their big challenge is coming soon, since 1/3 of the state is boomers.


It’s also a suburb of Boston. Plus skiing and hiking for Boston.


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33anda3rd wrote:
I love New England. Something interesting about that area, mills used to crank out a lot of paper, and manufacturing was big and that's largely gone in its old form but the median household income in NH in 2017 was over $73K, 7th in the US. Why? They invested in SMHT (Smart Manufacturing/High Technology) and lots of people work in it. It is accountable for 1 out of every $5 in wages in NH now. They're not pissing and moaning about lost coal jobs or lost auto jobs or lost oil jobs they're finding new industries and jobs.

Their big challenge is coming soon, since 1/3 of the state is boomers.


It’s also a suburb of Boston. Plus skiing and hiking for Boston.


Also Vermont, NH and Mass are all top-4 in PreK-12 education and bottom 4 in religion, which is effectively the dividing line for virtually every political issue in the US. Not surprisingly, Mass and NH are top-10 in employment rate and VT is in the 20s pretty much just on syrup. Also not surprisingly, all three of these states have some form of legal weed, with IIRC 2/3 of them having fully legal smoke em if you got em policies--when you're educated and not fundamentalist it's REALLY easy to just go "hey this thing makes a lot of money for the state and it's not worse than booze" rather than get all high and mighty about drugs and what adults do with their bodies.


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PostPosted: June 5 19, 10:14 am 
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33anda3rd wrote:
I love New England. Something interesting about that area, mills used to crank out a lot of paper, and manufacturing was big and that's largely gone in its old form but the median household income in NH in 2017 was over $73K, 7th in the US. Why? They invested in SMHT (Smart Manufacturing/High Technology) and lots of people work in it. It is accountable for 1 out of every $5 in wages in NH now. They're not pissing and moaning about lost coal jobs or lost auto jobs or lost oil jobs they're finding new industries and jobs.

Their big challenge is coming soon, since 1/3 of the state is boomers.



This just makes no sense to me. There are gobs of reasons other states may not have "invested" in these kind of jobs. For one, who is the "they" that did the investing? Was it the actual state government? Or was it some rich guy? Most likely it was some rich guy who got a tax break from the government. Not every state has a rich guy willing to make an investment like that. Also, these investments are driven by demand. If there were more demand for those kind of services or goods, then other states might invest in those kind of things more. Another thing that must be said is that New Hampshire is 94% white. Weird how extremely white states always tend to get more investment per person.


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33anda3rd wrote:
I love New England. Something interesting about that area, mills used to crank out a lot of paper, and manufacturing was big and that's largely gone in its old form but the median household income in NH in 2017 was over $73K, 7th in the US. Why? They invested in SMHT (Smart Manufacturing/High Technology) and lots of people work in it. It is accountable for 1 out of every $5 in wages in NH now. They're not pissing and moaning about lost coal jobs or lost auto jobs or lost oil jobs they're finding new industries and jobs.

Their big challenge is coming soon, since 1/3 of the state is boomers.



This just makes no sense to me.


NH has a very high rate of education. Very few dropouts. The workforce there is likely to be smart and able to complete work assignments--that's all HS and college are, demonstrating the ability to complete assignments while learning via the assignments. If you're Elon Musk are you gonna go build there or are you going to Alabama where education is low, gun ownership is high, teen parents are common (stressful on the ol' workplace when parents aren't ready to be parents), and everyone thinks that Donald Trump is telling the truth because they're blinded by religion and fundamentalism? It really makes all the sense that someone would invest in NH or any other state with an able and educated workforce.

This is why we get to have nice things like JB and the Assembly's sweeping batch of reforms in IL, because we have Chicago. Take Chicago out, JB loses the election and we still have GOP officials ruling our state. We have a Google HQ in Chicago and our bordering states don't have a Google HQ--why? You know why. Education. And an infrastructure that comes from educated people coming here to live and work. That's why we have that and Alabama and the like don't.


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