I think there's lots of instances of cultures changing very quickly (although, not to the extent of the culture in Handmaid, which is why it's an allegory) - post revolutionary Russia, Nazi Germany, the Roman Empire when whatshisname converted to Christianity?ghostrunner wrote:The Handmaid's Tale is really good, at least two episodes in. Cinematography is amazing.
Nice change of pace on subject matter, though a little tough to buy into the premise. It's not so much the oppression of women, it's that there's a national culture that seems to have formed and taken root very quickly. It doesn't look fun for the women or the men, the powerful or the powerless. I think you're meant to think those in charge enforce this out of what they perceive as necessity, but you don't know why these customs and class structures were settled upon. Details are sometimes beside the point in an allegory like this, but the show keeps flashing back and reminding you things were different. Seems like it would be easier to accept if it started 20-25 years from whenever everything changed, and the we didn't know that the characters all have adult memories of life being different. If you can get past that though, it's worth watching.
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Thanks - some of that I grabbed. I was trying to remember the Eladio cartel timeline. More so, the side characters like Nacho Vargas -I keep trying to remember how/if he was killed in BB. I am following, but sometimes wonder if I'm not putting it all together and missing some subtle gems -like back when Jimmy and Kim scammed the same stock"bro"ker dude that Walter White blew up his car in BB.AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:Yeah, the jimmy/chuck story is kind of...dry at this point. Obviously something is coming, but it's just dry right now. Mike/Gus/Hector is awesome.Freed Roger wrote:go birds wrote:the gus/mike-heavy episode was a enjoyable, but im eager to see what unfolds with jimmy/kimSecret Weapon wrote:More Gus/Mike and less Jimmy/Chuck is a good trade offgo birds wrote:BCS is gettin awful juicy
I'm having trouble remembering the old BB stories they are tying into (allegiances and who works for who etc). recall of latenight binge-watch from a couple years ago must not be the best.
I try to remember the backstory, but then give up, it's just all good storytelling on it's own.
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I thought about this some more and I suppose the Taliban in Afghanistan or the Iranian Revolution would be good points of reference. You've got destruction of cultural artifacts, severe dress codes, and those are male dominated cultures that also don't seem particularly "fun" for the men.Famous Mortimer wrote:I think there's lots of instances of cultures changing very quickly (although, not to the extent of the culture in Handmaid, which is why it's an allegory) - post revolutionary Russia, Nazi Germany, the Roman Empire when whatshisname converted to Christianity?ghostrunner wrote:The Handmaid's Tale is really good, at least two episodes in. Cinematography is amazing.
Nice change of pace on subject matter, though a little tough to buy into the premise. It's not so much the oppression of women, it's that there's a national culture that seems to have formed and taken root very quickly. It doesn't look fun for the women or the men, the powerful or the powerless. I think you're meant to think those in charge enforce this out of what they perceive as necessity, but you don't know why these customs and class structures were settled upon. Details are sometimes beside the point in an allegory like this, but the show keeps flashing back and reminding you things were different. Seems like it would be easier to accept if it started 20-25 years from whenever everything changed, and the we didn't know that the characters all have adult memories of life being different. If you can get past that though, it's worth watching.
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Do we know why when the salamanca twins in are sent to kill Walt in BB and Gus calls and redirects them Hank they listen, presumably, to Gus instead of whoever sent them to kill Walt?
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I got the impression they were acting of their own volition. During BCS Gus is clearly part of the Eladio Cartel. He could be at Hector's level during BB and able to "call them off".AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:Do we know why when the salamanca twins in are sent to kill Walt in BB and Gus calls and redirects them Hank they listen, presumably, to Gus instead of whoever sent them to kill Walt?
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BCS Not a favorite episode -
and Huell is back in the mix. Always good.
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i'm new to BCS but caught up on seasons 1 and 2 on netflix and have gotten caught up on season 3 thru other means. still need to watch last nights episode all the way through but man this show is great. as good as BB is/was, it was just a little too stressful. i appreciate the level of humor in this show. love the performances but in particular odenkirk and mckean. i love that two primarily comedic actors are able to do this drama and it makes sense that they'd play brothers. good casting.
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I am having trouble following the Gus and Mike storyline. I may need to go back and watch season 1 and 2.
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