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Favorite (least objectionable) 2012 Republican Candidate?
Mitt Romney 21%  21%  [ 15 ]
Jon Huntsman 25%  25%  [ 18 ]
Michele Bachmann 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Tim Pawlenty 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Newt Gingrich 7%  7%  [ 5 ]
Rick Santorum 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Ron Paul 32%  32%  [ 23 ]
Herman Cain 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Sarah Palin 4%  4%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 71
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Joe Shlabotnik wrote:
Pop - what the hell has happened to Progressivism in this country? I hope we see a renewal with this generation coming up. But its hard for this old coot to see it changing any time soon.


The corporations hold REALLY LOUD ANTI-PROGRESSIVE MEGAPHONES.
Very hard to compete when you can only whisper into a thunderstorm.

I've been fighting since the 70's and have lost nearly every battle since
Nixon was ousted.

No matter. I think people are starting to get it again.


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Progressivism is sadly dead. Well not really but it sure the hell isn't going strong. The right has done an amazing job of framing liberals as anti American anarchist and pulling the country to the right. So far to the right that most of the country believes our Republican President is actually a far left nut job.

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IMADreamer wrote:
Progressivism is sadly dead.


It will never die, IMAD.

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IMADreamer wrote:
Progressivism is sadly dead. Well not really but it sure the hell isn't going strong. The right has done an amazing job of framing liberals as anti American anarchist and pulling the country to the right. So far to the right that most of the country believes our Republican President is actually a far left nut job.


The right couldn't have done it if a majority didn't want to go along. It ain't the right, its America.

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Joe Shlabotnik wrote:
IMADreamer wrote:
Progressivism is sadly dead. Well not really but it sure the hell isn't going strong. The right has done an amazing job of framing liberals as anti American anarchist and pulling the country to the right. So far to the right that most of the country believes our Republican President is actually a far left nut job.

The right couldn't have done it if a majority didn't want to go along. It ain't the right, its America.

The majority didn't go along in 2000....

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I also think Obama will be reelected. But I don't think it will be easy. Especially if the health care mandate gets shot down. Obama had so much enthusiasm last time...it just won't be there this time. I mean, other than health care reform, what has really changed?

These are the types of elections that democrats cannot take for granted. Republicans are going to vote no matter what. Romney doesn't trip their trigger but they really dislike Obama. They'll show up. On the democrat side, I don't see it.

I guess as long as democrats keep preaching the 'war on women' (so glad that everyone took that language out of politics since that lady in Arizona got shot in the head) they will win.

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Joe Shlabotnik wrote:
IMADreamer wrote:
Progressivism is sadly dead. Well not really but it sure the hell isn't going strong. The right has done an amazing job of framing liberals as anti American anarchist and pulling the country to the right. So far to the right that most of the country believes our Republican President is actually a far left nut job.


The right couldn't have done it if a majority didn't want to go along. It ain't the right, its America.


I disagree in a sense. I think America is much more progressive then it wants to believe. When to poll people they want things like Universal Health Care, gay marriage, hell even legalized prostitution as well as many other progressive causes. However the right, it's media, and it's money keep finding a way to stop it at every turn. We are at the point where the extremes are running the conversation in this country now, but the only extreme with a real voice is the extreme right.

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I also think Obama will be reelected. But I don't think it will be easy. Especially if the health care mandate gets shot down.


I think it will be easier if it is shot down. No, I probably WISH it would be easier if it were shot down.

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Obama has said stupid [expletive]. All the republicans have said stupid [expletive]. And in all honesty, is there really a person here that is fired up about going in and voting in November?

I think I'm going to vote for Johnson, and I'm not even fired up about that.

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