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Favorite (least objectionable) 2012 Republican Candidate?
Mitt Romney 21%  21%  [ 15 ]
Jon Huntsman 25%  25%  [ 18 ]
Michele Bachmann 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Tim Pawlenty 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Newt Gingrich 7%  7%  [ 5 ]
Rick Santorum 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Ron Paul 32%  32%  [ 23 ]
Herman Cain 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Sarah Palin 4%  4%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 71
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I thought Feingold said he was not running? or am I confusing him with someone else?

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IMADreamer wrote:
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Legalizing prostitution is a progressive cause?


Not in the pro life, health care sort of way, but I certainly think it's a cause the left is behind. I don't know. I don't speak for the left but I think it should be and we should tax the hell of it.


I suspect that this has more to do with prevailing religious values and regional history than anything else. Libertarians would support legalization. I would think progressives would vary, depending upon how much agency sex workers would have. If they believe that prostitution is often associated with human trafficking or coercion, they might not.
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If they believe that prostitution is often associated with human trafficking or coercion, they might not.

While progressives don't go for full legalization ala Libertarians, isn't one of the prevailing pro-pot arguments that it decreases the drug trade? I imagine a similar position would be taken in that legalizing prostitution would likely decrease the human trafficking.

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vinsanity wrote:
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If they believe that prostitution is often associated with human trafficking or coercion, they might not.

While progressives don't go for full legalization ala Libertarians, isn't one of the prevailing pro-pot arguments that it decreases the drug trade? I imagine a similar position would be taken in that legalizing prostitution would likely decrease the human trafficking.


That's true, but I'm not sure how that works out in practice. I simply have no idea.

When I posted, I was thinking about this particular response to a discussion of legalized prostitution on Andrew Sullivan's blog at the Daily Beast. The post should link up to the broader discussion on the blog: http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/02/dissent-of-the-day.html
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vinsanity wrote:
sighyoung wrote:
If they believe that prostitution is often associated with human trafficking or coercion, they might not.

While progressives don't go for full legalization ala Libertarians, isn't one of the prevailing pro-pot arguments that it decreases the drug trade? I imagine a similar position would be taken in that legalizing prostitution would likely decrease the human trafficking.

I don't see how you can compare prostitution to marijuana.

Smoking pot is a victimless crime. Prostitution is not.

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AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:
Smoking pot is a victimless crime. Prostitution is not.

Huh? Who's the victim when one consenting adult charges another consenting adult $1k/hour for a romp in the hay?

Legal, consenting prostitution is very much a victimless crime.

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Smoking pot is a victimless crime. Prostitution is not.

Huh? Who's the victim when one consenting adult charges another consenting adult $1k/hour for a romp in the hay?

Legal, consenting prostitution is very much a victimless crime.


Fancy?

Seriously though, if a girl wants to sell her virginity for a million dollars? Fine. But, if a girl has to let a group of guys gang bang her in order to pay her heating bill, I think there is a problem.

Consenting adults? Fine. Turning girls into expensive (or not) sex dolls? No. Paying money to turn humans into inanimate objects is not just morally wrong, it has harmful consequences to those objectified as well. (not to say this is always the case, but when it is, it should be illegal)

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I thought Feingold said he was not running? or am I confusing him with someone else?


He's likely not, there's huge amounts of pressure from progressives here for him to run.

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I was going to vote for Santorum but could not do that in good faith and voted for Obama yesterday. I do hope that Santorum fights the fight and makes it to a brokered convention, which helps Democrats.

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sighyoung wrote:
vinsanity wrote:
sighyoung wrote:
If they believe that prostitution is often associated with human trafficking or coercion, they might not.

While progressives don't go for full legalization ala Libertarians, isn't one of the prevailing pro-pot arguments that it decreases the drug trade? I imagine a similar position would be taken in that legalizing prostitution would likely decrease the human trafficking.


That's true, but I'm not sure how that works out in practice. I simply have no idea.

When I posted, I was thinking about this particular response to a discussion of legalized prostitution on Andrew Sullivan's blog at the Daily Beast. The post should link up to the broader discussion on the blog: http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/02/dissent-of-the-day.html

Or for a thoughtful left perspective: http://jacobinmag.com/blog/2012/03/the-problem-with-sex-work/

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