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So, a few months ago I got a cat. She's scheduled to be spayed in a couple weeks. By two thursdays from now, I need to decide whether or not I also want to get her declawed.

The family cat that we had growing up was declawed, so I've always assumed it was common and perfectly acceptable. After poking around online, it's apparently a highly controversial issue that some people find incredibly inhumane and downright barbaric. Some of the arguments I've heard are...

It's mutilation of your cat!
Well, isn't spaying and neutering the same thing!? Granted, I realize that one has to do with "convenience" and the other is rooted in population control, but still. They don't seem that different to me.

Your cat will be defenseless!
But this is an indoor-only cat. She's not coming in contact with rival cats or predators. This isn't a concern.

It's a North American fad -- the procedure is banned all over Europe!
This fact I find pretty intriguing. But, strength in numbers only goes so far -- I still can't rationalize why it's so evil.

I'm sure 95% of my stance is rooted in the fact that my upbringing viewed this practice as completely acceptable. But, besides that, I find that the counter-arguments tend to be hyperbolic and somewhat disingenuous. Anyone want to try to convince me the other way, or alternatively, assuage the ounce of pre-operation guilt I'm feeling right now?

I look forward to Mary and Planet chiming in, the usual suspects offering cheap one-liners about how cats are awful and should be completely eradicated, and also the potential of this thread devolving down a left-versus-right, Bible-bashing political tangent.

EDIT: I should also add that I've tried things like:
- deterring the scratching of furniture / humans by spraying her with water approach
- "Soft Paws", which I've had absolutely miserable results with (falling off almost immediately, extremely difficult to apply to begin with)
- trimming nails
- buying scratch posts, pads, etc...

Despite all of this, I am still routinely scratched (obviously you're going to get scratched from time to time, but this happens way too often), and my furniture (carpet, couch, etc) is being destroyed.

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I've never gotten a cat declawed, but I have never had a STRICTLY INDOOR cat, either. I have always welcomed my cats to try and see if they can find it any better than they have it - so I won't declaw them in case they get lost and need to defend themselves or feed themselves.

If you have the luxury of letting your cat come and go as it pleases, (at least in my experience) they never really go anywhere. At least for not very long, so, not very far.

I get them fixed. I get them shots. And I don't leave them locked in my house.

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Kyle wrote:So, a few months ago I got a cat. She's scheduled to be spayed in a couple weeks. By two thursdays from now, I need to decide whether or not I also want to get her declawed.

The family cat that we had growing up was declawed, so I've always assumed it was common and perfectly acceptable. After poking around online, it's apparently a highly controversial issue that some people find incredibly inhumane and downright barbaric. Some of the arguments I've heard are...

It's mutilation of your cat!
Well, isn't spaying and neutering the same thing!? Granted, I realize that one has to do with "convenience" and the other is rooted in population control, but still. They don't seem that different to me.

Your cat will be defenseless!
But this is an indoor-only cat. She's not coming in contact with rival cats or predators. This isn't a concern.

It's a North American fad -- the procedure is banned all over Europe!
This fact I find pretty intriguing. But, strength in numbers only goes so far -- I still can't rationalize why it's so evil.

I'm sure 95% of my stance is rooted in the fact that my upbringing viewed this practice as completely acceptable. But, besides that, I find that the counter-arguments tend to be hyperbolic and somewhat disingenuous. Anyone want to try to convince me the other way, or alternatively, assuage the ounce of pre-operation guilt I'm feeling right now?

I look forward to Mary and Planet chiming in, the usual suspects offering cheap one-liners about how cats are awful and should be completely eradicated, and also the potential of this thread devolving down a left-versus-right, Bible-bashing political tangent.

EDIT: I should also add that I've tried things like:
- deterring the scratching of furniture / humans by spraying her with water approach
- "Soft Paws", which I've had absolutely miserable results with (falling off almost immediately, extremely difficult to apply to begin with)
- trimming nails
- buying scratch posts, pads, etc...

Despite all of this, I am still routinely scratched (obviously you're going to get scratched from time to time, but this happens way too often), and my furniture (carpet, couch, etc) is being destroyed.
Kyle, you know where I stand on the issue and I am firm on that. However, I had declawed cats (and my oldest still is). The scratching posts don't work? How old is your cat/kitten? I got my older cats declawed back in the day and it was a scene from "Saw" when I tried to bathe them after they pissed themselves on the way home. Serious blood in the bathtub, etc. I don't know that there are studies out there that say declawing reduces a cat's life span, but cats accidentally get out all the time and to think they'd have no means to defend themselves is just irresponsible cat ownership. Of course, you mention the humane issue which is no. 1 in my book. So I keep a stash of Neosporin on hand, big deal. It's only because I choose to play with them.

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docellis wrote:I've never gotten a cat declawed, but I have never had a STRICTLY INDOOR cat, either. I have always welcomed my cats to try and see if they can find it any better than they have it - so I won't declaw them in case they get lost and need to defend themselves or feed themselves.

If you have the luxury of letting your cat come and go as it pleases, (at least in my experience) they never really go anywhere. At least for not very long, so, not very far.

I get them fixed. I get them shots. And I don't leave them locked in my house.
Meh, not a big fan of outdoor/indoor cats either. That definitely shortens their lifespan.

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I'm against it tbh. They say it's the equivalent of cutting off a humans fingertips.

Just get it a scratching post and be sure to clip its nails every couple of weeks. You should be fine.

If its tearing up your furniture then it's prolly a little terror that you won't want to have around anyway.

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planet puma wrote: Meh, not a big fan of outdoor/indoor cats either. That definitely shortens their lifespan.
I have never had a cat die because it was allowed to go outside. I do not live on a busy street, and I have never chosen to have a cat when I did live on busy streets.

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planet puma wrote:Kyle, you know where I stand on the issue and I am firm on that.
Actually, I had no idea what your stance was. I just knew that you and Mary were cat people, so I figured you'd be locks to reply to this topic!

planet puma wrote:However, I had declawed cats (and my oldest still is). The scratching posts don't work? How old is your cat/kitten?
She's only about six months. I asked the vet if the behavior would improve with age and she told me not to count on it.

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go birds wrote:I'm against it tbh. They say it's the equivalent of cutting off a humans fingertips.
Sweet, Yakuza cat.

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go birds wrote:I'm against it tbh. They say it's the equivalent of cutting off a humans fingertips
They say that neutering a cat is equivalent of castrating a dude.

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Kyle wrote:
planet puma wrote:Kyle, you know where I stand on the issue and I am firm on that.
Actually, I had no idea what your stance was. I just knew that you and Mary were cat people, so I figured you'd be locks to reply to this topic!

planet puma wrote:However, I had declawed cats (and my oldest still is). The scratching posts don't work? How old is your cat/kitten?
She's only about six months. I asked the vet if the behavior would improve with age and she told me not to count on it.
I am adamantly against declawing despite what I also knew when I grew up. I can't guarantee that your furniture (or even if you buy new furniture) won't show a little bit of wear, but it is an inhumane procedure. IMO, you're getting a pet to be part of your family, not a convenient accessory, however long they live with us. As part of a rescue organization, it drives me nuts when people return pets who inconvenience them. Attacking people is a different problem.

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