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PostPosted: June 8 12, 8:50 am 
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"America has the least equality of opportunity of any of the advanced industrial economies," In short, the status you're born into — whether rich or poor — is more likely to be the status of your adult life in America vs. any other advanced economy, including 'Old Europe'.

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It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe.

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I don't know if it's a complete myth but it's certain unrealistic for 99% of the poor out there. You have to have money to make money. That is fact.

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And opportunities for capable young people on the lower / middle end to get ahead are slipping away as costs go ever higher.

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Don't know if this is correct, but I have read that people moving to the US are much more likely to become millionaires than those born here, because natural born Americans don't realize or appreciate the opportunities we have here.

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Spider John wrote:
Don't know if this is correct, but I have read that people moving to the US are much more likely to become millionaires than those born here, because natural born Americans don't realize or appreciate the opportunities we have here.

It appears sort of true. I thought it may be, but it only applies to entrepreneurs. The way I'm reading it is that the types of people who emigrate are more likely to be the types of people who succeed as entrepreneurs.

Interesting note though, good tidbit.

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Spider John wrote:
Don't know if this is correct, but I have read that people moving to the US are much more likely to become millionaires than those born here, because natural born Americans don't realize or appreciate the opportunities we have here.

I believe it. I know many individuals I graduated with that like to complain about the system being broken because they can't find a job. Well, they're only looking at high paying jobs in a specific area they want to work and aren't willing to work hard and expand their possibilities. I used to believe it was just too hard for people coming out of school, and while it is certainly tough, it's not impossible to overcome. I know many people that took low paying jobs outside of what they wanted and just busted their ass until they found a better opportunity. Those individuals who worked the hardest are starting to get what they wanted, and I'm really happy for them. The ones that just don't seem to care enough to put forth the effort don't seem to get anywhere.

This is a country built on hard workers. I'm not putting down other nations, but in the US, if you're willing to put forth the effort, I really believe you can go a long way. You can work at it with a positive attitude, or you can play the role of victim.

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vinsanity wrote:
Spider John wrote:
Don't know if this is correct, but I have read that people moving to the US are much more likely to become millionaires than those born here, because natural born Americans don't realize or appreciate the opportunities we have here.

It appears sort of true. I thought it may be, but it only applies to entrepreneurs. The way I'm reading it is that the types of people who emigrate are more likely to be the types of people who succeed as entrepreneurs.

Interesting note though, good tidbit.


People that immigrate here are hungry for opportunity. Americans are hungry for Cheetos.

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People that immigrate here are hungry for opportunity. Americans are hungry for Cheetos.

Right, but it seems you're saying "<Insert ethnic group> are better entrepreneurs than Americans."

There are plenty of successful, American entrepreneurs and plenty who'd rather work a 6 figure job for someone else and retire at 55 to Florida or work their way up to an executive level of someone else's company. Not all success is being a successful entrepreneur, but the type of person who would move to a country to start a business probably has similar qualities to most successful entrepreneurs. Causation and correlation if you wil.

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