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PostPosted: August 27 12, 9:21 am 
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100% agree. Was saying the same thing to my coworker this morning. Gus Fring took the show to heights that will now be impossible achieve. Not only because of how compelling the character was as a villain, but mostly because of the nature of the audience's relationship with Walt. Walt's humanity died in his crawl space and ever since, he's been impossible to root for, so the emotional stakes of the show become less traditionally antagonist v protagonist and more a voyeuristic relationship where the shock value and drama of the show have more to do with the depths that Walt has and will continue to sink.
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For all the theories of how the show has built into a story where Hank is the hero at the end, we've actually spent very little time with his this season. The tension in his office where Walt was removing the bug was a beautiful bait and switch where I thought he was going to catch Walt, but where the tension arose was from Walt overhearing that the lawyer was going to turn on Mike. They even left it ambiguous to the point where we don't actually hear Gomez mention that it's his lawyer, so there was a minute or two where I thought that Walt would assume it was Jesse who flipped. That's a perfect example where the show has gone to remain compelling despite no real hero to root for and I love it, but it's just not capable of reaching the same thrilling emotional roller coaster that we had in the last two seasons.


That is perfectly stated.

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The opening last night - small detail I caught and absolutely loved. They did a close up of Walt's wrists. On one was his watch, the one Jesse bought him and he hasn't taken off since. The other was wrapped in a bandage, concealing a wound that was inflicted after Mike tied him up.

The watch - it's a token from Jesse, but a false one. Walt sees it as confirmation that Jesse loves him, that he's somehow a father figure to Jesse. But Jesse has grown to despise him. Walt's oblivious too it and still clings to the memento.

The wound - it's a token from Mike, a wake up call that's gone unheeded. He plunges headlong into this abyss, disregarding Mike's warnings all along and clinging to his own ego.

He rubs the one, despising the pain it causes. He shifts the other one, comforting himself in the notion that he holds something over Jesse.



Or maybe I just read way too much into things like this.

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PostPosted: September 1 12, 6:11 am 
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I love how they keep fooling you into thinking Walt still has some remorse.
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You think he's upset that he just shot Mike and you find out he's upset that he could have just gone to Lydia.

I'm kind of ready for him to get caught. I figured with the first episode prologue this season that skyler would have turned him in or hank would have caught him by now. Then we'd have an 8 episode arc of him eluding police or Jesse (who I still suspect might get him in end - though maybe that's too expected). So many ways it could go though.


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[expletive] IS ON (in 9 months)!!!!

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bob thrill wrote:
[expletive] IS ON (in 9 months)!!!!



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I was trying to think of any other way Walt would spin "G.B.," but I've got nothing. The closest I could come was Gretchen, but I don't believe they've ever mentioned her maiden name (although her last name is Schwarz, German for black, which would work.)

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I was trying to think of any other way Walt would spin "G.B.," but I've got nothing. The closest I could come was Gretchen, but I don't believe they've ever mentioned her maiden name (although her last name is Schwarz, German for black, which would work.)


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No way Hank confronts Walt yet, plus he can't really spin it at all. My guess is Hank will take a picture of it with his cellphone and compare it to the notebook's handwriting in the evidence locker anyway.


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How fitting it is it that Hank would have the biggest revelation of the show while taking a dump?



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That's pretty [expletive] funny.

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Andy Greenwald's fantastic, esoteric recap of last night's finale: http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood ... g-over-all

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