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PostPosted: August 2 18, 9:44 pm 
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Freed Roger wrote:
Now that I have a Subaru, it seems like everybody has them.

Funny how that works.

BTW - I never have been a "car person"...but really like it, Crosstrek.

this was after I PMd Karp with questions on other cars (used). I upsold myself into a new.


I'm strongly considering a Subaru, but I already know that every other car on the road here is an Outback. I've had 2 cars in a row that handle terribly in the snow, and I'm sick of it. Plus, I really miss having a hatchback.

My wife had it in the snow a lot shuttling relatives around rural NW MO to see her dying grandpa in hospital. She attests to its handling.

Subaru obvious known to be dependable. Holds it value. I just like it -though some of the features i am rip van winkling over (blind spot indicators rear camera, hands free etc) are getting standard to other vehicles.

And the rear camera -this one actually gives a good view. Though I still look back. And the hands free and voice commands - my version syncs the phone apps more directly -not completely seamless, but more just like using your smartphone than some other syncd handsfree interface.

In other words- I only tell the voice to [expletive] off about once a day compared to the once every hour on our 2013 mazda.
I do like the hatch. Even with the clearance below, The roof isnt so damn up there like a SUV so I can load the roof easy. I've taken a SUP, kayak and two bikes (on back) on this Crosstrek. No problem. Good times.

If you get it, they have some sort of superfluous app called starlink, which gets reamed in reviews by the techies that tend to get subarus, so I never downloaded


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PostPosted: January 18 19, 12:40 pm 
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In STL, I don't buy vehicle based on snow abilities, but damn my Subaru was dominant in the snowstorm last Friday evening. Had a 30 mile drive in it on local roads (hilly, out by Six Flags) at the time interstate 44 was getting clobbered.

I just switched to manual mode, to downshift, and minimized braking etc. Hills, no problem Mine also has something called X-Mode - more sensitive AWD, tractioncontrol, clutch pressure or whatever -I never have used it, and needed to be in park to activate

Saw so many vehicles stuck stopped and slid off road -at least 20 on the trip - hell, I was so chill listening to my music stream, petting my dog in next seat that I lost track. I tempted to stop and help, but it would have created more cluster, and really what good would I do helping them back onto a further deteriorating condition?

Re:vehicles off the road that weren't me. This post, only 10%, jerking off,. But I reckoned only some of the carnage was do to user error, panicsville and SUVs going too fast etx., I empathized with some -I figured some were retail and FF workers in older cars trying to get out of exurbian hellzone they commute to. (aah my days of 80s model RWD Chevy hatchback. with sandbags in it couldnt get up or down the slightest of grades.)

BTW, I dont understand vehicles and physics so well, but seemed like the proportions on this vehicle helped it. Clearance, AWD but compact It doesnt have the weight the sliding SUVs and trucks have which I surmise make it harder to stop/slow down when nonslick ground can't be found.
Now watch I end up in a ditch this weekend.


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PostPosted: January 18 19, 1:08 pm 
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We have an AWD Infiniti and a big boxy 4WD Honda Pilot. I really like that Honda but the little G series sedan runs circles around it in the snow. It's not even close.


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PostPosted: January 18 19, 9:10 pm 
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I tested my on demand AWD Escape by plowing into my unshoveled driveway. It failed. Was fine on slick and sloppy roads but it’s awd utility is limited.


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PostPosted: January 19 19, 6:52 am 
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I suppose there are a lot of good reliable quality cars and trucks and suv’s out there, but without doing a lot of research I believe that Toyota ranks right up there. As far as the Camry and the previous opinion on it, everyone has a right to their opinion but the new Camrys are really sharp looking in my opinion, and have that Toyota quality. I have owned many vehicles in my 73 years, more than I can remember. Most I have purchased or leased new. Most have had some “bugs” to be worked out or have had to go back to the dealer, some multiple times. In May of 2016 I purchased a Toyota RAV4 Limited Hybrid. It has 194 hp with a 2.5 engine. I now have 25,000 miles on it. It has normal, economy, sport and electric motor only modes. There are two electric motors and an Atkinson gas engine. It averages 35 mpg which isn’t bad for a suv with AWD. All that being said, it is the first vehicle that I have owned that has had no issues, absolutely NONE! It came over on the boat from Japan. Unless it disappoints me in the near future, I am happy as a clam to have it. It is comfortable too. I expect to have it for a very long time. Oh yeah, it is wonderful in snow. When it idles, only the electric motors run, unless the charge in the motor drops, then the gas engine kicks in. Another gas saver.


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