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JL21 wrote:Not that I'm disputing your stories (I believe both of you), but I'd think you'd have to do obscene amounts of acid to become permanent mush. Or I guess you could get a hold of a really, really, really bad batch or something.
I think some people's mental chemistry can't handle ONE acid trip.

Some people can't handle ONE line of coke. (one line, shot of heroin, one drink, etc).

Maybe someone can do a line of coke, but one hit of acid turns their mind to mush. I think there is something to be said for everyone's brain chemicals being a little different.

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AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:Alcohol is the only drug that the actual act of doing it can be fun. How many times do people try to bounce a ping pong ball onto a syringe and then take that shot, or get held upside down and see how long they can take a hit, or race to see who can snort a line the fastest? Drinking is fun. It is infinitely more socially accepted than any drug, including pot or pills. It is addictive. It kills what more than all the other drugs combined (granted bc of easier access) on a yearly basis?

Thats not to say alcohol is bad or worse than other drugs. Or that other drugs should be legalized, though its a decent opening argument. But, seriously, people treat alcohol like it is not a drug. Or that, at a minimum, its use is somehow less dangerous than all these other drugs. And sure. One beer is exponentially safer than one syringe full of heroin to the neck. But no one drinks one beer.
I disagree, I do drink one beer. I drink almost every day, it's part of my diet basically. Usually more than one, but sometimes only one.
Right, you're making my point. You've drank thousands, probably tens of thousands, of beers. Not just one. When you first started drinking, making that choice back in your teens I'm guessing, the question regarding safety wasn't one beer.

Of course, now there are ample studies saying a drink or two a day is fine, even healthy, but, again, back when you started drinking, no one knew that. Possibly because multi-billion dollar liquor corporations weren't funding studies.

Anyway, back to the point, people really treat alcohol different than any narcotic, prescription drug, or recreational drug, imo.
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Arthur Dent wrote:Not to really disagree with you, but aren't cigarettes still the biggest killer?
D'oh! Yes, I believe you are right and I totally forgot about it.

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haltz wrote:Cocaine isn't always the best thing to throw into the mix when you're a heavy drinker, and it's expensive, but I've never actually met anyone who used on anything close to a daily basis, or even when they were sober. And almost everyone I know does it occasionally. There's this weird thing about it where people think it will quickly ruin your life. Heroin and alcohol are really the only things I've ever seen take anyone down.
I have a friend who had a $1000/day coke habit, intravenous. His story is horrendous. He ran several very successful businesses in between huge binges where he'd blow $20, 30, 50K shooting up in bathroom stalls. Some people can handle it socially. Those people aren't addicts.

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I pretty much concur with her.

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planet p wrote:I pretty much concur with her.
Awesome read, planet

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planet p wrote:I pretty much concur with her.

I don't completely agree. Like most things, I'm pretty sure it's a combination of things including a good deal of what she says.
I do believe that their are people with addictive personalities, and perhaps addictive chemistries.
I do understand that for some people quitting smoking was much more difficult than it was for me. No question. But for many of those people (the ones I'm familiar with), the problem began with not really actually wanting to quit smoking. Sure, they "tried" but they gave lip service to wanting to stop but they really loved smoking and, as far as I could tell, didn't really want to not smoke. It was part of their identity.

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Quitting my snuff habit was absolutely horrendous. Physically horrible - cramping, sweats etc... and then the emotional pull.

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jim wrote:Quitting my snuff habit was absolutely horrendous. Physically horrible - cramping, sweats etc... and then the emotional pull.
Snuff habit? Good Lord, are you 200 years old?

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