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 Post subject: Re: Fyrefest 2017
PostPosted: January 28 19, 10:55 am 
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Yeah. what was he, 28? He is like having a salesperson running a business with no operational knowledge..Sell Sell sell, with no regard to margin or whether product can be delivered or even exists.

Complicating matters is that much of what he actually selling was the FOMO BS/hype/status. It was what the customers wanted, the chance to snap a selfie looking like they are having fun in proximity of glamour. i.e. The end piece of netflix showed people buying a session to pretend they were in a private jet.
Billy seemingly didn't fully grasp the dividing line between fake hype magic and real. Amazing that grown up investors gave him $ ...though they probably inherited their wealth.

I haven't seen hubris at his level, but will say it is amazing how clueless some people are that enter into business.

Reminds me of a larger scale version of nephew in college that wants to be a EDS music DJ dude. Like Jason on The Good Place, lol. .
He is not a dumb kid, but he is frat boy. No musical training, or music software expertise, but he is pursueing this aspect... as much as a partying college boy can. But its not Berklee college of music or anything.

The other day he had a gig, my daughter shared pics and said it looked great. I find out day later he paid over 500 worth of his friends bar bill, got the money via venmo access to his parents' acct. I feel for my bro/sis in-law. Hard to tell when to squash a kid's dreams. Time to do him a favor and cut the funds.
Anyways, it is interesting -the significant chunk of our economy is hype/creativity endeavors. The young people that produce it vs the clueless old people with the money to throw at tapping into the millenial market etc.
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not the same, but is the Theranos documentary out yet?


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 Post subject: Re: Fyrefest 2017
PostPosted: January 28 19, 11:06 am 
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not the same, but is the Theranos documentary out yet?

i don't believe so but i'm starting to get interested in this story. i certainly remember seeing her face and she was the next big thing but never paid much attention to it then heard about the fall from grace, etc but that was about it to my knowledge. i watched a several YT videos of the author who broke the story and 1 or 2 ABC special reports too and gosh what a failure that was. i had never heard her voice until watching some of these clips, she spoke deeply (but apparently it was fake), she idolized steve jobs, wanted to be some pioneer but just had this false crusade going. they were using 3rd party machines, modifying them but they still couldn't didn't do what they advertised. she swooned this very old board of trustees (includeing mattis, murdoch and a few other big names) for millions of dollars. wasn't until one of the board members grandchildren, who also worked at the company, blew the lid on it.


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What's shocking is how deep into 'this is clearly BS' these people can keep drawing investors. Hillary had a Theranos fundraiser in 2016. Obviously doesn't look so bad in hindsight given What Happened (better a SV snakeoil fraud than Putin, to be sure), but pretty yucky still.


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 Post subject: Re: Fyrefest 2017
PostPosted: January 30 19, 10:48 am 
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Hold on a minute... Billy was definitely a scammer. Always had been. For a minute you can think that he was just an arrogant millennial who got in over his head on an ambitious project. That is, until you find out his businesses beforehand were ponzi schemes and he went straight back to scamming after being released on bond. He is a con man who had one of his biggest cons spiral out of control and into the spotlight.


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PostPosted: January 30 19, 11:01 am 
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Hold on a minute... Billy was definitely a scammer. Always had been. For a minute you can think that he was just an arrogant millennial who got in over his head on an ambitious project. That is, until you find out his businesses beforehand were ponzi schemes and he went straight back to scamming after being released on bond. He is a con man who had one of his biggest cons spiral out of control and into the spotlight.


That's why you don't hire Roger De Bris as your choreographer, and then cast a flower child as Hitler.


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PostPosted: January 31 19, 8:49 pm 
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Billy will be back selling something just like Jordan Belfort once he’s out. And news and Hollywood will gladly be complicit with a film glamorizing his life or something

Another thing that bothered me was the bubble these VC start up people seem to live in. Talking about “energies” and suspending their true feelings about people because they’ve bought into the pipe dream that THIS will be the app that hits. [expletive] the details right? (No MAGA jokes!)


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FJerry were the mrktg company behind the orange tile. An idea they probably stole.

https://news.avclub.com/surprise-the-so ... 1832231815

They were producers of the NF doc, I'd guess for getting ahold of their footage.


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 Post subject: Re: Fyrefest 2017
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I didn't realize that was news....just assumed everyone knows about FJerry's shenanigans.

It makes me sick that they continue to profit off other people's work. Same with fatjewish.

Side note--i do find it kinda funny that a writer from a publication called "Vulture" is campaigning to put an end to the thieves at FJerry


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PostPosted: February 1 19, 11:16 am 
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go birds wrote:
I didn't realize that was news....just assumed everyone knows about FJerry's shenanigans.

It makes me sick that they continue to profit off other people's work. Same with fatjewish.

Side note--i do find it kinda funny that a writer from a publication called "Vulture" is campaigning to put an end to the thieves at FJerry



I had no idea. Had never heard of them. [expletive] those guys. Absolutely disgusting.


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 Post subject: Re: Fyrefest 2017
PostPosted: February 1 19, 3:12 pm 
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Another thing that bothered me was the bubble these VC start up people seem to live in. Talking about “energies” and suspending their true feelings about people because they’ve bought into the pipe dream that THIS will be the app that hits. [expletive] the details right? (No MAGA jokes!)


There's gold in them there hills.

Same sh*t, different century.


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