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Rowling vs Tolkien
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PostPosted: January 16 19, 12:36 pm 
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The LOTR movies are my Star Wars. The long sections of poems in the books never reached me.

My son and I just read HP1 and the storytelling really is only good enough for kids, though the universe building is great. We'll be reading through the series, so maybe it gets much better.

The HP movies I saw were pretty lame.

However, now that HP children are becoming taste makers and have all the tools of the Internet, I expect it to replace the Bible as the most important thing ever. The reverence for the things we loved as kids is really powerful (myself absolutely included).

Also Sauron is Voldemort's daddy. Maybe there was a Sauron that Sauron was based on, but the character of Voldemort owes a good great deal to Sauron.


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Gashouse wrote:
The Harry Potter books are much better. LOTR movies are much better.

Agree.
BottenFieldofDreams wrote:
My son and I just read HP1 and the storytelling really is only good enough for kids, though the universe building is great. We'll be reading through the series, so maybe it gets much better.

It does.


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PostPosted: January 16 19, 1:08 pm 
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I only got 1/4 through The Hobbit novel. It felt like James Joyce gobbledygook.


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MAGA wrote:
I only got 1/4 through The Hobbit novel. It felt like James Joyce gobbledygook.


IMO, the LOTR movies cut out all that unnecessary stuff that made the books a bit of a chore to read (plus the acting was great). On the flip side, the Harry Potter movies cut out pieces that made the story great (plus the acting was terrible - well, mostly Ron and Harry, but they're pretty key).


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PostPosted: January 16 19, 1:19 pm 
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I haven't read the Potter books...I have read LOTR and the Hobbit. I thought the Hobbit was the better book.

The debate was over the movies; not the books. My nephews are the reverse; they have read the Potter books but never cracked open Tolkien. Schools don't assign the classics anymore. #oldAF


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wart57 wrote:
The correct answer is Doctor Who.


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For the record, my take was concerning the books. The movies are a push to me. Some bad acting in HP but Ian McKellen overacted gandalf to the point of distraction if you ask me.


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Joe Shlabotnik wrote:
For the record, my take was concerning the books. The movies are a push to me. Some bad acting in HP but Ian McKellen overacted gandalf to the point of distraction if you ask me.


I want to argue. If you're dressed like a wizard and saying things like "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!" to a 55 ft. Balrog, just how nuanced can you go?


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BottenFieldofDreams wrote:
Joe Shlabotnik wrote:
For the record, my take was concerning the books. The movies are a push to me. Some bad acting in HP but Ian McKellen overacted gandalf to the point of distraction if you ask me.


I want to argue. If you're dressed like a wizard and saying things like "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!" to a 55 ft. Balrog, just how nuanced can you go?

That was his best scene. His adoring looks at hobbits and loooong looks of concern basically throughout the rest of the movie left me rolling my eyes.


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