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 Post subject: Re: Getting into shape
PostPosted: March 4 19, 1:04 pm 
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Freed Roger wrote:
Keep at it Swirls. When training for distance, some training schedules don't have you do the entire race distance in training. i.e. for a half your training may top off at 10. I think it is important to do the full distance ahead of time -at whatever pace

Physically it may not do much in short term -but mentally you have cleared the hurdle. You know it is do-able and race day is more enjoyable. Two weeks out from race day if possible.

You probably have considered you may not be acclimated to heat. Be sure to have a plan for hyddating and electrolytes etc. I have read about Badwater participants (the awful ultra in death valley in summer.) that hack into acclimation with sauna sessions.

Sounds like you have a run walk plan, which is good. Good to have a strategy. I make one up a strategy arbitrarily -even for training runs -kind of a placebo empowerment thing.

For long [expletive] I've only toyed with this run walk regime of my brothers - he has a goal per mile pace. say for simplicity 10 mim miles. He runs first full mile -say he he hits a mile in 9:30, then walks to 10 min mark. then runs until he hits 2 miles and walks to he hits 20 min mark. He says he feels like he can do this forever, because he banks quite a bit under that 10 min mile pace. I rarely do it, because I am almost always in hills and if I am walking, its going to be uphill rather than when the watch tells me.


Yeah, this plan basically takes you to 10 or 11 and then assumes on actual race day you'll be able to do the rest on sheer adrenaline.

I do have a few pairs of compression socks of varying amounts of compression. I would normally wear them for a 5K or a 10K (which I would walk 90% of), but will probably wear the light compression ones during the race and switch to the heavier compression ones after it's over.

The wife is a long distance runner and has done 20 half-marathons so far. Last year her goal was to do one each month of the year, which she completed (finding ones in November and December were rough with weather and travel, but oddly enough there were a ton in January and February). Her bucket list is to run one in all 50 states (she's currently on #12 or #13 I think). So she's running this one with me and is somewhat keeping me accountable (and vice versa).


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 Post subject: Re: Getting into shape
PostPosted: March 4 19, 1:33 pm 
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It is cool husband of you to train and jump in a few of these events with your wife. Some people egos are too big for something that can suck in a humbling painful sort of way. Helps you get in shape, gives you appreciaton for what she is doing.

And fwiw, the running is humbling at all levels. Unless you are Usain Bolt in the sprints or Eliud Kipchoge for distance... some one that logically shouldn't be faster can kick your arse.

My main competitive foe in long trail races used to be a 60 year old guy that looks 60 and super-humble non-descript. He has several grandkids. "Used to be" my foe because now he is getting faster and blowing me away. (i feel better about things after learning he used to be a local elite -once did 2:30 marathon. ...he is finding it again).


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 Post subject: Re: Getting into shape
PostPosted: March 11 19, 10:43 am 
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Update: last Tuesday the wife and I hopped on the treadmills to do our 5 mile run, and within a couple minutes I had developed some severe pain on the side of my foot. It wasn't on the ankle, heel, or the front near my toes, but more on the outer side (close-ish to the ankle). After resting it for a couple days I tried to run again and the pain was present the entire time. Even after those runs the pain would continue off and on for a few days. We both feared it may be a minute stress fracture or something that could affect the rest of my training regimen before April's race.

Yesterday afternoon I took the advice of my wife and went in to a popular running store in Minneapolis. I explained my situation and they had me walk a few steps, do a couple squats, and stand separately on each leg to see how my feet moved and landed. They immediately said it wasn't a stress fracture and was likely a shoe problem. I showed them my current shoes, which were about 2.5-3 years old but still had plenty of tread left on them. It turns out they weren't actual running shoes and were more of a cross-training shoe with support designed for working out in a gym rather than long distance running.

They gave me a new pair of shoes and had me hop on their treadmill where they filmed me running for 30ish seconds to get a gait analysis. It turns out my left foot lands inward quite a bit but my right foot does not. Both are pretty neutral when landing in terms of heel/toe. That new piece of information, combined with my high arches, led them to recommend a wide-toe running shoe. They only had two brands in stock in my size, so I tried both on and gave them a whirl on the treadmill.

Holy [expletive] what a difference it made. There was a pair of Brooks (which my wife swears by) but they were still a little tight on the top of my foot, so I ended up purchasing the other pair (New Balance 860v9's). At $125, they were also some of the cheapest shoes they had in the store. The store has a full 60 day return policy, so if the pain comes back then I can return them and try something else (they also carry custom orthotic inserts, so I may try something like that as well).

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I put them on and went back to the Y and ran 4 miles without any problems. The pain was there when I started, but after about the first half mile most if it had gone away. It's still there slightly right now, but I'll pop a couple ibuprofen before my 4-5 mile run today and hopefully within the next couple days it will be gone entirely.


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 Post subject: Re: Getting into shape
PostPosted: March 13 19, 8:46 pm 
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Well that is good. I remember way back having similar issues.
Shoes were too small, and me too cheap to buy new ones. wide toe box is way to go. injuries in the lower extremities also went away as I lost weight.

Perservering and even making progress getting in shape in the winter will payoff. Running outside not bundled up, and in daylight will seem like a breeze


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