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PostPosted: April 18 12, 9:15 am 
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The lesson you should take away from this is that the casual Cardinal fan is stupid. Unbelievably stupid. I was at a game a few years ago, and the people in front of me were discussing how the Cardinals hadn't had a good pitching staff since the late 90's. This was particularly dumbfounding since they led the league in ERA in 2005, and were 2nd in 2004. Meanwhile in the late 90's, they were...not very good.

They were also wondering why Eckstein wasn't playing that night. This was 2 years after he had left. No, they were not attempting to be sarcastic.

I would say this is nearing the bottom of the barrel when it comes to stupid casual fans. But even the average is pretty dumb. So I am not surprised that many of them have abandonment issues with Pujols.


Yep.

These kind of fans are also part of another large group of people known as ESPN viewers.


Or the large group of people identified as "women".

There's a large contingent of fans who show up at Busch to be associated with the culture of Cardinal fandom. i.e., It is cool to be a Cardinals fan in St. Louis. In my experience there are a lot of women out there who claim to be "huge Cardinal fans" who couldn't name more than 5 players on the current roster, and couldn't rattle off more than maybe 3 of the championship seasons or retired numbers. This group includes, sadly, my fiance.

No offense to the ladies on this board. I think they know that they are in an elite group of female fans.

EDIT: There's also a large segment of clueless dudes. Didn't mean to forget them.


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pioneer98 wrote:
Popeye_Card wrote:
The lesson you should take away from this is that the casual Cardinal fan is stupid. Unbelievably stupid. I was at a game a few years ago, and the people in front of me were discussing how the Cardinals hadn't had a good pitching staff since the late 90's. This was particularly dumbfounding since they led the league in ERA in 2005, and were 2nd in 2004. Meanwhile in the late 90's, they were...not very good.

They were also wondering why Eckstein wasn't playing that night. This was 2 years after he had left. No, they were not attempting to be sarcastic.

I would say this is nearing the bottom of the barrel when it comes to stupid casual fans. But even the average is pretty dumb. So I am not surprised that many of them have abandonment issues with Pujols.


Yep.

These kind of fans are also part of another large group of people known as ESPN viewers.


Ah yes, good point. One in our group last night was singing the praises of Bo Hart. "Why isn't Bo Hart still on the team." I then had to explain that Bo Hart sucks.

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PostPosted: April 18 12, 9:18 am 
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I then had to explain that Bo Hart sucks.
I thought that's why everyone liked him. And his eternal grit.

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PostPosted: April 18 12, 9:19 am 
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IMADreamer wrote:
pioneer98 wrote:
Popeye_Card wrote:
The lesson you should take away from this is that the casual Cardinal fan is stupid. Unbelievably stupid. I was at a game a few years ago, and the people in front of me were discussing how the Cardinals hadn't had a good pitching staff since the late 90's. This was particularly dumbfounding since they led the league in ERA in 2005, and were 2nd in 2004. Meanwhile in the late 90's, they were...not very good.

They were also wondering why Eckstein wasn't playing that night. This was 2 years after he had left. No, they were not attempting to be sarcastic.

I would say this is nearing the bottom of the barrel when it comes to stupid casual fans. But even the average is pretty dumb. So I am not surprised that many of them have abandonment issues with Pujols.


Yep.

These kind of fans are also part of another large group of people known as ESPN viewers.


Ah yes, good point. One in our group last night was singing the praises of Bo Hart. "Why isn't Bo Hart still on the team." I then had to explain that Bo Hart sucks.


Bo Hart may have the most legendary 335 plate appearances of below-league-average production in baseball history. I mean, he last played for the Cardinals 8 years ago.


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I'm over him leaving. He lied to each and every one of us. He did what he said he would never do. In the end, he proved he was nothing more than a talented athlete that went the way of all but a few talented athletes. He chose the dollar over legacy. I no longer go out of my way to see how he's doing(wasn't all that difficult when he was playing on my favorite team). But I do read the paper, and its hard to ignore any article about his lack of performance thus far. And in that, I find a little bit of solice. I hope that contract drags LA into the cellar for the next decade.

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Well, it could have been worse - back in 1999, when JJ was pitching his no-hitter against Randy Johnson at BOB, my then-wife, as the ninth inning started, looked at the scoreboard, realized what was happening, and started to tell me - I had to shush her rather quickly.

Ten years later, I was at the Game 2 of the NLDS against the Dodgers in LA, and with two outs, the person I was with turned to me and said, "Congratulations". I jumped and said, "Not yet!" The very next pitch was lined to Holliday in left field, and we all know what happened thereafter.

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Bo Hart hit a grand slam.

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There's a large contingent of fans who show up at Busch to be associated with the culture of Cardinal fandom. i.e., It is cool to be a Cardinals fan in St. Louis. In my experience there are a lot of women out there who claim to be "huge Cardinal fans" who couldn't name more than 5 players on the current roster, and couldn't rattle off more than maybe 3 of the championship seasons or retired numbers. This group includes, sadly, my fiance.



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I am a serious baseball fan who wants to see Pujols fail in LA. I'm not sure what that makes me.


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PostPosted: April 18 12, 10:22 am 
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I need somebody to tell me how I should feel about Pujols.

Also, what level do you think my fandom is at?

1. Mild
2. Medium
3. Hot
4. Burn Your Ass

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