Re: Beer
Posted: March 12 19, 6:53 am
quick question: what's the difference between a taproom, brewpub, and craft brewery?
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These type of people are everywhere, not just the beer scene. And, yes, they are annoying.33anda3rd wrote:Awful. I want to fight every neckless bearded inked flannel shirt in that place. Just people talking about beer. Oh, you had that beer, I had that beer too I traded this beer for it, but have you had this beer? Because I had this beer and still have some in my house that's like 2 years old that my friend brought me and oh you didn't go to Dark Lord Day last year my god I'd never miss it it's the best you stand in line for hours for two bottles of beer it's the best. Oooohhhh lemme nose this glass and talk out my ass about which hops I detect and.....
At least here in MN, my understanding is that the difference is in terms of food availability.AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:quick question: what's the difference between a taproom, brewpub, and craft brewery?
One, Small Bar #2. Small Bar #1, one of Chicago's greatest craft beer bars, closed 4-5 years ago because, surrounded by rapid gentrification, a Target, a bunch of [expletive] sports bars, the owner was like "[expletive] it" and closed the mothership, which was everyone's favorite craft beer and soccer bar. Quenchers, at Fullerton/Western, was not too far from my place on Logan Blvd, an easy 15 minute walk or so. It was one of the OG craft beer bars in Chicago and probably Chicago's second most-loved craft beer bars. It closed, the owner tried--I mean, TRIED--to sell the business and no one wanted to buy one of Chicago's most beloved craft beer bars in this environment of taprooms opening all around it. So it's closed, and being rehabbed, and will be a dentist's office if I recall correctly. The Paramount Room in the West Loop is gone swallowed up by that neighborhood going from being fishmongers and meatpackers 20 years ago to corporate restaurant groups, the Google offices, the Ace Hotel, the Hoxton Hotel, the SoHo House, and the tiny little Paramount Room with it's wagyu burgers and craft beer list is a memory. There's a hipster cocktail spot there now with [expletive] food and it will close in short order I'm sure.Freed Roger wrote:How many? I do not have a guess?
Super unique environment. Almost no such thing as a craft beer bar because it's a city where the brewpubs and taprooms beat the craft beer bars to the market. I love drinking in taprooms in Asheville (the Funkatorium is my fave) and they are an outlier, since they are probably like 30% of the local economy.Freed Roger wrote:Thirsty Monk in Asheville is my ideal for a tap room. They brew a few of their own, so they are not likely to sell out to distributor picking 2/3 the taps even if they could in an area with so many breweries (my theory, I don't know for sure) . Though they do have a location at a fancy mall sort of place - which gave me something to do while my wife looked around the shops.
BOOM! What's the buyer into at that bar, and what are the neckbearded regulars there into swilling a lot of? That's what you'll get. Go to Bangers & Lace in Chicago, 30-some handles, and you'll get lots of IPA, IIPA, DIPA, RIS, Milk Stout, and like one pils, one cider, one sour, maybe one dark lager. Go to Moonlighter here with 20 handles and 12-14 of them are sour/light/food-friendly. That's right up my alley but not everyone's. Go to Hopleaf and they have seemingly every beer ever made, which is great, but they buy everything to meet every taste, there's no demonstration of a curatorial hand. And I'd bet a lot of their bottle/can options are nearing or past 90* days and not being served very fresh because they house so much stock and can't possibly go through every option in 90 days.Freed Roger wrote:Trying to put my finger on what is lacking in these tap rooms....Maybe its that distributor influence. they have 30-40 beers on tap (or more. here's an RFID band, pour your own!).
But it inevitably boils down to only a few that I am interested in drinking. Which is same # as if I went to a good bar/restaurant with 7 Taps. A 3 out of 7 is a helluva a lot less headache than 4 out of 40. Plus I get decent food, don't pour my own, and the soundsystem oversaturation of big screens isn't frying me.
By raw numbers, sure.Freed Roger wrote:Maybe urban Chicago has a lot more jackasses.
33anda3rd wrote:By raw numbers, sure.Freed Roger wrote:Maybe urban Chicago has a lot more jackasses.
We didn't peak in the 1800s so a lot of people live here.