Corporate Speak

[wart57]

touchbase.

I don't think that is supposed to be one [expletive] word you stupid [expletive] head.

[in5in06]

I haven't read through all the pages in this thread, so forgive me if it's been brought up.

My boss uses these two sayings almost on a daily basis that goes through me every damn time:

It is what it is.
High-level overview.

[Spider John]

[why is it ok for business to be heartless/soul-less and fire managers mid-season and foreclose on homes but it's morally wrong for an employee to give em the finger and say I'm gone?

This is inspired by vinsanity from the Riggleman resigning thread. It has become a pet peeve of mine to hear the use of terms such as "team", "partners", and "associates" used by companies when you know it's a one way relationship. You're a member of that sacred group of buzzwords until it's more profitable for the company break that relationship.

Call it what it is, a business relationship, instead of trying to make it sound all fuzzy and warm.

[Hungary Jack]

[why is it ok for business to be heartless/soul-less and fire managers mid-season and foreclose on homes but it's morally wrong for an employee to give em the finger and say I'm gone?

This is inspired by vinsanity from the Riggleman resigning thread. It has become a pet peeve of mine to hear the use of terms such as "team", "partners", and "associates" used by companies when you know it's a one way relationship. You're a member of that sacred group of buzzwords until it's more profitable for the company break that relationship.

Call it what it is, a business relationship, instead of trying to make it sound all fuzzy and warm.

It's called employment at will.

And baseball managers get fired at midseason because their teams are performing below expectations (a few exceptions withstanding).

And no one is that other thread is saying that it's morally wrong to give your boss the finger. In Riggs' situation, he has effectively blackballed himself from managing again. Nothing morally wrong, but just plain dumb, at least on the surface.

The issue of Riggs quitting on his team is another question.

[vinsanity]

And baseball managers get fired at midseason because their teams are performing below expectations (a few exceptions withstanding).

So why not get a fat bonus when the exceed expectations if you can be punished for going below?

It's like being salaried vs hourly in IT. If I'm salary I have to work until the job's down - if it takes 40 hours or 60 I'm supposed to be at my desk getting it done. And I get paid the same both weeks. But if there's 20 hours of work to do? Costs me a vacation day to not come in Friday. Same idea - if you're below expectations it's ok to be fired but if you're above expectations you're just filling the terms of your contract?

Hourly I get paid to sit in my chair 40 hours a week. If I work 60 I get paid 60.

[Hungary Jack]

And baseball managers get fired at midseason because their teams are performing below expectations (a few exceptions withstanding).

So why not get a fat bonus when the exceed expectations if you can be punished for going below?

It's like being salaried vs hourly in IT. If I'm salary I have to work until the job's down - if it takes 40 hours or 60 I'm supposed to be at my desk getting it done. And I get paid the same both weeks. But if there's 20 hours of work to do? Costs me a vacation day to not come in Friday. Same idea - if you're below expectations it's ok to be fired but if you're above expectations you're just filling the terms of your contract?

Hourly I get paid to sit in my chair 40 hours a week. If I work 60 I get paid 60.

Or you can get a city job and get paid to not work.

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

If I'm salary I have to work until the job's down - if it takes 40 hours or 60 I'm supposed to be at my desk getting it done. And I get paid the same both weeks. But if there's 20 hours of work to do? Costs me a vacation day to not come in Friday.

That's not factual.

Regardless, I heard a good buzzword today. A guy at our company that has been hemorrhaging money was asked how group (of two people) was doing. Yeah, two [expletive] people and they are essentially just collecting paychecks and going home. Anyway, the office manager asked him what was going on..... His response, "uhhhh. yeah. we're picking up. You know, we've got a couple irons in the fire. A couple big things coming our way."

He basically just said nothing, per the usual, but 'couple irons in the fire' is a new one I hadn't heard.

[Hungary Jack]

If I'm salary I have to work until the job's down - if it takes 40 hours or 60 I'm supposed to be at my desk getting it done. And I get paid the same both weeks. But if there's 20 hours of work to do? Costs me a vacation day to not come in Friday.

That's not factual.

Regardless, I heard a good buzzword today. A guy at our company that has been hemorrhaging money was asked how group (of two people) was doing. Yeah, two [expletive] people and they are essentially just collecting paychecks and going home. Anyway, the office manager asked him what was going on..... His response, "uhhhh. yeah. we're picking up. You know, we've got a couple irons in the fire. A couple big things coming our way."

He basically just said nothing, per the usual, but 'couple irons in the fire' is a new one I hadn't heard.

I think Willy Loman is working in your company.

[vinsanity]

If I'm salary I have to work until the job's down - if it takes 40 hours or 60 I'm supposed to be at my desk getting it done. And I get paid the same both weeks. But if there's 20 hours of work to do? Costs me a vacation day to not come in Friday.

That's not factual.

Citation? It can vary state to state.

New regulations adopted in August 2004 increase the salary limit that makes you ineligible and define what kinds of work makes you ineligible. Now, you’re not eligible for overtime (OT) if you earn more than $455 per week. Stated differently, if your base salary works out to less than $11.38 per hour, 40 hours per week, you do get OT.

Link says it is factual.

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

If I'm salary I have to work until the job's down - if it takes 40 hours or 60 I'm supposed to be at my desk getting it done. And I get paid the same both weeks. But if there's 20 hours of work to do? Costs me a vacation day to not come in Friday.

That's not factual.

Citation?

Well, I did put this

A guy at our company that has been hemorrhaging money was asked how group (of two people) was doing. Yeah, two [expletive] people and they are essentially just collecting paychecks and going home

And, the way you presented it just made it seem like it was common practice/certainty that if a person didn't have work for a day or two, they'd be taking a forced vacation or furlough. Yeah, if a company/municipality/state/etc is way low on work/out of budget, then they'll either lay people off or institute that. But, by and large, salaried employees get away with having a couple days of overhead a month if not more.

Edit to say: I see now we were talking about different things. Yeah, your'e not going to get ot if you're salaried. I thought you were trying to say if you only had 20 hours of work you had to take a vacation day to get your 40 hours which isn't true.