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The Freese AB with two questionable ball/strike calls was key. Reason I didn't like running with the pitch with Freese is that you risk the potential of a K/out stealing DP without scoring the run. They had the infield in, they aren't going to try to turn 2 on a ground out. And even if they did the run scores on an infield ground out DP.

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Holliday comes through, but notorious chokers Freese and Molina blow it.

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2nd time this week a Cards loss could be attributed to base running blunders.


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The Freese AB with two questionable ball/strike calls was key. Reason I didn't like running with the pitch with Freese is that you risk the potential of a K/out stealing DP without scoring the run. They had the infield in, they aren't going to try to turn 2 on a ground out. And even if they did the run scores on an infield ground out DP.


I'm surprised this wasn't obvious to Matheny.


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Greene has a shot if he takes off with the throw. But he didn't leave until Beltran was in the rundown. If you're going to do that silly [expletive], you've got to do it right or you don't have a prayer. We wear caps and sleeves at this level, son.

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jim wrote:
The Freese AB with two questionable ball/strike calls was key. Reason I didn't like running with the pitch with Freese is that you risk the potential of a K/out stealing DP without scoring the run. They had the infield in, they aren't going to try to turn 2 on a ground out. And even if they did the run scores on an infield ground out DP.

Well, if they throw to 2b, then Greene takes off for home.

The Freese strikeout is what I thought was going to happen to end Game 6.

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Last Play: Y. Molina struck out swinging, T. Greene caught stealing, catcher to second to catcher


Just you're everyday K, 4, 2 DP.

Thinking back through it, it wasn't as odd as I originally thought. Matheny started the runner to remove the DP threat. Makes a lot of sense with Molina up. Beltran goes. Ball is unhittable, but Yadi had to swing. Strike out. Then, Beltran wasn't doing a straight steal, so he was caught half way. Tried to start the rundown to give Greene a chance to get down the line and score before he's tagged.

Greene went home... probably not a great decision, but he was caught in between too. 2b'man runs Beltran half way back to 1st and threw home to nail Green coming down the line.

I don't think there was any way to avoid a DP there after you make the decision to send Beltran on an unhittable pitch. So, it was over any way you want to slice it. Good execution by the Brewers. Bad decision by Matheny, even though it was probably the right decision (to send the runner).

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It was a designed play that worked against AA'ers during ST.

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I think you send Beltran with Freese batting for sure. You're not trying to stay out of a double play, you're hoping they try to throw out Beltran so Greene can steal home (Hopefully executing better than he eventually did). And you're keeping Molina, who is a huge GIDP candidate, out of a double play situation.

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