Transmogrified Tiger wrote: To say that Goodell hammering the Saints means he thinks that the bounty issue is the main cause of player safety concerns is a substantial leap in logic.
I don't believe he thinks that. But that is what he is selling to the public to clean up the NFLs image in the wake of all these player safety concerns.
I don't know what makes you think that's what he's selling. There's not a single person here, except for you, who believes that he's sending that message. So if he's trying to send that message, then he's doing a horrible job.
I think that the NFL has done a good job of trying to protect players, in what is a very physical game. I mean, the protection of quarterbacks and receivers has almost gotten to the point of overkill.
You think the NFL has done a good job of protecting players? Have you read the Junior Seau thread? I think it is real easy to argue the NFL has not done a great job of protecting players. I guess this type of thing is a matter of opinion, so we can agree to diagree.
This repetitive head trauma thing is a HUGE deal right now though...and it is the very topic the guy who released the audio tapes from the Saints locker room was doing a documentary about! Yes, the NFL announced the first punishments for the Saints in early March (I think), which was before the tapes came out...so I mis-spoke when I said the tapes started this mess....Regardless, we now have details in the public record that even made some of the players uncomfortable. With Spygate, the NFL handed out the punishment to the team and then destroyed the evidence (videotapes). Unfortuantely for them, this time a piece of evidence got out into the public...and this one is potentially far more damaging to their reputation than Spygate.
Here is just one snippet from that 10,500 word essay:
[Drew Brees] is also reviled by many former players because a few years prior, he was on the record criticizing the men who ran into post-career difficulty because of their poor investments and multiple marriages. It wasn’t understood so clearly when Brees made those comments, but today many within the game realize that these former players weren’t just depressed because the cheering had stopped. They had a difficult time dealing because their heads, not only from concussions, but also, because they had been subjected to “repetitive head trauma.”
There are currently over 2,000 former players who have filed lawsuits against the NFL and plenty of evidence to suggest that the league could have done more to inform the players of the ramifications of the way the game was being played and dealt with medically. I have interviewed the two of the lawyers who filed the initial suit, Jason Luckasevic and Tom Girardi and they are quite confident when they present the facts of this case, they will be victorious.
So I guess there are 2,000+ players out there who also think the NFL didn't do a great job of protecting them.
Transmogrified Tiger wrote: To say that Goodell hammering the Saints means he thinks that the bounty issue is the main cause of player safety concerns is a substantial leap in logic.
I don't believe he thinks that. But that is what he is selling to the public to clean up the NFLs image in the wake of all these player safety concerns.
I don't know what makes you think that's what he's selling. There's not a single person here, except for you, who believes that he's sending that message. So if he's trying to send that message, then he's doing a horrible job.
I think that the NFL has done a good job of trying to protect players, in what is a very physical game. I mean, the protection of quarterbacks and receivers has almost gotten to the point of overkill.
You think the NFL has done a good job of protecting players? Have you read the Junior Seau thread? I think it is real easy to argue the NFL has not done a great job of protecting players. I guess this type of thing is a matter of opinion, so we can agree to diagree.
Well, Junior Seau started his career 20 years ago. I think that the NFL has taken steps since then. It's never going to be a "non-physical" game, but I don't think it's fair to say that they're not trying. This thread is a perfect example. They come down hard, and people criticize them. They do nothing at all, and people criticize them.
pioneer98 wrote:Here is just one snippet from that 10,500 word essay:
[Drew Brees] is also reviled by many former players because a few years prior, he was on the record criticizing the men who ran into post-career difficulty because of their poor investments and multiple marriages. It wasn’t understood so clearly when Brees made those comments, but today many within the game realize that these former players weren’t just depressed because the cheering had stopped. They had a difficult time dealing because their heads, not only from concussions, but also, because they had been subjected to “repetitive head trauma.”
There are currently over 2,000 former players who have filed lawsuits against the NFL and plenty of evidence to suggest that the league could have done more to inform the players of the ramifications of the way the game was being played and dealt with medically. I have interviewed the two of the lawyers who filed the initial suit, Jason Luckasevic and Tom Girardi and they are quite confident when they present the facts of this case, they will be victorious.
So I guess there are 2,000+ players out there who also think the NFL didn't do a great job of protecting them.
That's certainly not surprising. If there's a dollar to be chased, then attorneys are going to chase it.
NEW YORK (AP) Scores of lawsuits involving thousands of former players touched by concussions and brain injuries have been consolidated into one master complaint, setting up a massive and potentially costly case for the NFL.
Lawyers for the players filed the complaint Thursday in Philadelphia, accusing the NFL of hiding information that linked football-related head trauma to permanent brain injuries. Among the illnesses cited were dementia and Alzheimer's disease.
The plaintiffs hope to hold the NFL responsible for the care of players suffering from those health problems.
According to an AP review of 81 lawsuits filed through May 25, the plaintiffs include 2,138 former players. The total number of plaintiffs in those cases is 3,356, which includes players, spouses and other relatives or representatives.
The average career lasts something like 2 years, and it's looking like those are the lucky ones. The only people who really come out ahead are those who get a big rookie contract and are out of the league in a few years. And here I always thought Jamarcus Russell was dumb.
The NFL Players Association filed a lawsuit against the NFL on behalf of three players suspended in connection with the bounty investigation, calling Commissioner Roger Goodell ''incurably and evidently biased.''
