8/7 GDT: Cardinals(Flaherty)@Dodgers(May) 2:10 PM CT

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haltz wrote:
Big Amoco Sign wrote:53% > 50%

And moreso if you include his 64% GB rate for this season alone. Gotta go with five infielders. Bring Thomas in the middle. Base hit is going to win it anyways. Russell Martin hits 50% ground balls too! Does anyone do scouting on this team?? Choice was easy.
I think the cost of a LD or FB with two OF outweighs taking the 20% chance of a GB going for a hit down to 8% or whatever with five infielders. ~50% means that half the time it won't be a ground ball. Happy to disagree.
And yes, he didn't extend his arm. I'll post a pic of the "WP" when I can. You shift your body.
He definitely took a stab at it and there's no way to shift your body in front of an 87mph bugs bunny slider that's 3 feet off the plate. Here's your pic. The ball is circled in red behind his glove.

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Agreed,U can’t block that pitch, u try and block that and it kicks between first and pitcher and run scores from second..
Also he might have got crossed up they didn’t seem to be same page that inning ...looked that way

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Score one again on Friday, boys, and see if it's enough. Don't change a thing.

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Magneto2.0 wrote:
CT Defector wrote:1-6 since the trade deadline, we’ll probably be in 3rd place by the end of the night.
I don't really buy into things like this but I wonder if no moves deflated the team?
I can promise you Mo’s decisions had no effect on any of the players’ psyches.

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I feel like I’m in Wild Wild Country now somehow.

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I've seen Yadi slide many times. And with Carlos too.

Know your pitcher.

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Big Amoco Sign wrote:I've seen Yadi slide many times. And with Carlos too.

Know your pitcher.
Not many catchers are as good as Yadi has been throughout his career; even if he is declining now.

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CardsofSTL wrote:
Big Amoco Sign wrote:I've seen Yadi slide many times. And with Carlos too.

Know your pitcher.
Not many catchers are as good as Yadi has been throughout his career; even if he is declining now.
If anyone could get a glove on that pitch it's Yadi, but unless you can teleport you can't get in front of something that's moving like that and missing by that much. It's a ludicrous suggestion.

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haltz wrote:
Big Amoco Sign wrote:53% > 50%

And moreso if you include his 64% GB rate for this season alone. Gotta go with five infielders. Bring Thomas in the middle. Base hit is going to win it anyways. Russell Martin hits 50% ground balls too! Does anyone do scouting on this team?? Choice was easy.
I think the cost of a LD or FB with two OF outweighs taking the 20% chance of a GB going for a hit down to 8% or whatever with five infielders. ~50% means that half the time it won't be a ground ball. Happy to disagree.
Russell Martin = hits 50% ground balls. (8% more than league average)
Carlos (2019) = 64% ground balls period
Carlos (career) = 53% ground balls with 2 strikes

With runners on second and third and two outs, you have to play the GB and protect runner on second from scoring. A flyball out to the wall likely wasn't going to happen.

The outcome showed the ball bounce in the infield through a hole that wouldn't exist with 5 infielders. Gee who could have predicted that?
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haltz wrote:
CardsofSTL wrote:
Big Amoco Sign wrote:I've seen Yadi slide many times. And with Carlos too.

Know your pitcher.
Not many catchers are as good as Yadi has been throughout his career; even if he is declining now.
If anyone could get a glove on that pitch it's Yadi, but unless you can teleport you can't get in front of something that's moving like that and missing by that much. It's a ludicrous suggestion.
"Ludicrous"

Yadi can get it but not a gold glove catcher in Wieters?

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http://www.qcbaseball.com/skills/catchi ... pitch.aspx

It's catcher 101 actually.

Wieters was also very nonchalant about getting back to it too. Compounds his overall awareness on the play.

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Is that the one where they throw balls into a trash can with Fred McGriff?

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