AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:
ghostrunner wrote:
This isn’t about joker, but since we were talking about Nolan. I think there’s some truth here.
No one says 'give it to me and i'll do what you should have done 10 minutes ago' in conversation nor is there really an appropriate time to even feign it into one. Conversely, why so serious is pretty easy to work in, not that people are walking around saying that either. Come to think of it, while the why so serious line is easily recognizable because of the deliverance, I have no idea when it's said in the movie. Otoh, the i'll do what you should have done 10 minutes ago line is easily recognizable from the boat scene.
Put me in the column of firmly disagree that comic book movies would be in better shape if they had less why so serious moments and made it more about forcing some pre-conceived notions about humanity down peoples' throats...not that people should learn much from a fictional comic book movie anyway.
I mean, the unknown of that scene is what makes it so great, right? Can you imagine the inmates blowing up the other boat? I certainly can, and I certainly wouldn't volunteer to put myself in the civilians' boat because of what happened in a batman movie. And, likewise, can you imagine the civilians blowing up the prisoners' boat? I certainly can and wouldn't volunteer to put myself in the prisoner's boat either. The cherry on top is the ending where Deebo takes it upon himself to spare the civilians' ferry. But, the scene isn't great because of that, it's the sheer brilliance of the situation and the plot of the movie that make it great. Or to put it another way, would it really make the movie worse if the civilians blew up the inmates or vice versa? Aside from unmask batman, the Joker accomplished everything he set out to do including the corruption of Harvey Dent while turning Gotham into utter chaos. All while challenging Batman at every step Bruce Wayne took.
It's great to empathize with people, agreed. But, let's not go crazy here.