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Re: Diamondbacks sign Jordan Montgomery

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Popeye_Card wrote:
October 2 24, 7:53 am
Famous Mortimer wrote:
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I bet Boras has sent him a nice "congrats on your performance" gift.
As bad as Monty was this season, his 2024 performance as a pitcher was still better than Boras’ performance as an agent. Monty probably lost $50MM+ of career earnings by waiting out the market.
Yep, and now he's another year older with that dud of a season under his belt. His shot at getting a big FA deal just evaporated. It'll be ok, he'll still clear at least $10 mil a year as long as a team is there to give him a shot.

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Re: Diamondbacks sign Jordan Montgomery

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Popeye_Card wrote:
October 2 24, 7:53 am
Famous Mortimer wrote:
October 2 24, 7:24 am
I bet Boras has sent him a nice "congrats on your performance" gift.
As bad as Monty was this season, his 2024 performance as a pitcher was still better than Boras’ performance as an agent. Monty probably lost $50MM+ of career earnings by waiting out the market.
Neither of us have any idea outside Montgomery's (probably self-serving) statement, what the market was for him, or indeed what Montgomery agreed to. No agent can force teams to make offers for their players.

Perhaps, just perhaps, other teams had access to metrics and scouting that predicted a decline exactly like this, and didn't want to sign him for the price he thought he was worth?

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I suspect Montgomery, as a mid-rotation pitcher in his very early thirties who doesn't strike out or overpower hitters, just wasn't the ideal type of player for Boras's strategy of maximum term and maximum dollars. GM's are wary about term and dollars for post-30 starters anyway, but while Montgomery provided very good results in 2021-2023, he wasn't an ace, and he didn't tend to pitch deep into games during his prime.

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Re: Diamondbacks sign Jordan Montgomery

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Famous Mortimer wrote:
October 2 24, 8:41 am
Popeye_Card wrote:
October 2 24, 7:53 am
Famous Mortimer wrote:
October 2 24, 7:24 am
I bet Boras has sent him a nice "congrats on your performance" gift.
As bad as Monty was this season, his 2024 performance as a pitcher was still better than Boras’ performance as an agent. Monty probably lost $50MM+ of career earnings by waiting out the market.
Neither of us have any idea outside Montgomery's (probably self-serving) statement, what the market was for him, or indeed what Montgomery agreed to. No agent can force teams to make offers for their players.

Perhaps, just perhaps, other teams had access to metrics and scouting that predicted a decline exactly like this, and didn't want to sign him for the price he thought he was worth?
A pitcher with a decent track record and under 30 like Monty could easily sign 5+ years at $20MM+ AAV. He ended up getting $50MM for 2 years, and after this disaster of a season he’ll probably be lucky to get $30-40MM total for the next 3 seasons. That’s where I’m getting the $50MM+ of career earnings left out there.

To sigh’s point, Monty being more of a high floor, limited ceiling guy was not really the right fit for Boras’ wait-the-market-out strategy. Now that the high floor reputation is destroyed, he’ll never see another big long-term deal. Boras as an agent should earn his commission by knowing this.

EDIT: I was going off memory that Monty was under 30. Still a valid assumption for his 30/31 age.

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