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Who is this 5+ WAR player that is being referenced....?

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NDark wrote:Who is this 5+ WAR player that is being referenced....?
Bryce Harper.

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NDark wrote:Who is this 5+ WAR player that is being referenced....?
Tommy Pham.

The one that one of the Fangraphs projections think will get 5.7 WAR this year.

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Big Amoco Sign wrote:
NDark wrote:Who is this 5+ WAR player that is being referenced....?
Tommy Pham.

The one that one of the Fangraphs projections think will get 5.7 WAR this year.
FWIW, it would probably be better to say he's been a 5+ WAR player on average over the past two seasons. The FANS projection on Fangraphs is a crowdsourced projection, that is typically wildly optimistic. 39 total position players are projected for 5+ WAR (including our own Marp, DeJong, and Goldschmidt). To ground that number in reality, 21 total position players had 5+ fWAR in 2018.

Pham is a 5-ish fWAR player that we traded away for peanuts. Yep. But I think the point here is that the more he makes these very public statements, the more we understand why the organization was willing to take a loss on value.

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Thought the point was to win baseball games.

The player is loved by fans. DeWitt's ego got bruised. Rest is history. Moving on...

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Big Amoco Sign wrote:Thought the point was to win baseball games.

The player is loved by fans. DeWitt's ego got bruised. Rest is history. Moving on...
don't think you are though...

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Big Amoco Sign wrote:Thought the point was to win baseball games.

The player is loved by fans. DeWitt's ego got bruised. Rest is history. Moving on...
Team made a decision on what they thought would win more games going forward. I don’t know enough about the situation to know if they’re right or not, but anecdotally the team won at a better clip post-Pham.

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Popeye_Card wrote:
Big Amoco Sign wrote:Thought the point was to win baseball games.

The player is loved by fans. DeWitt's ego got bruised. Rest is history. Moving on...
Team made a decision on what they thought would win more games going forward. I don’t know enough about the situation to know if they’re right or not, but anecdotally the team won at a better clip post-Pham.
Excuse me, but I believe the poster with a Tommy Pham avatar made it pretty clear that we are moving on from talking about Tommy Pham. Next subject.

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Oh, I thought we were talking about a guy who had actually done it more than once in his career. My bad.

To definitively say someone is "X" I would expect them to have shown to have done it regularly.

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NDark wrote:Oh, I thought we were talking about a guy who had actually done it more than once in his career. My bad.

To definitively say someone is "X" I would expect them to have shown to have done it regularly.
By that definition, Bryce Harper is not a 5+ WAR player.

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