Do the Cardinals have a Plan? Not Yet.

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Jocephus wrote:
December 18 20, 11:11 am
Cardinals signed INF Jose Rondon to a minor league contract with an invitation to spring training.

Rondon is capable of playing all over the field, but he's posted just a .595 OPS over parts of three seasons in the majors and hasn't hit much in the minors, either. He'll turn 27 in March.
Dec 18, 2020, 11:36 AM ET
We've replaced low hanging fruit with discarded pits.

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CardsofSTL wrote:
December 18 20, 2:46 pm
Jocephus wrote:
December 18 20, 11:11 am
Cardinals signed INF Jose Rondon to a minor league contract with an invitation to spring training.

Rondon is capable of playing all over the field, but he's posted just a .595 OPS over parts of three seasons in the majors and hasn't hit much in the minors, either. He'll turn 27 in March.
Dec 18, 2020, 11:36 AM ET
We've replaced low hanging fruit with discarded pits.
There's roster depth, and then there's roster abyss.

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MrCrowesGarden wrote:
December 17 20, 2:26 pm
Contender Lite seems an apt description, but I prefer Jobber to the Stars
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I wrote about the new non-roster invitees here, if you want to know more about their profile and skillsets

https://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2020/12/19 ... infielders

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Folks, we have lost Nabil Crismatt. I repeat, we have lost Nabil Crismatt. Please try to remain calm. Hug your loved ones today.

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heyzeus wrote:
December 19 20, 9:36 am
Folks, we have lost Nabil Crismatt. I repeat, we have lost Nabil Crismatt. Please try to remain calm. Hug your loved ones today.
I would ask that people please respect my privacy during this trying time.

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Okay. I'm recovered.

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Fat Strat wrote:
December 19 20, 8:58 am
I wrote about the new non-roster invitees here, if you want to know more about their profile and skillsets

https://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2020/12/19 ... infielders
Thanks. I agree with your conclusion that hopefully more is coming!

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Our stove is hot as balls.

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Sam
what do the cardinals do to get better? do they even do as much as go after joc?

Guest
One of you fangraphs colleagues said he thought the cards were a favorite fro Lindor, what do you think?

Ben Clemens
This would certainly be an improvement. I'm not sure if they're the favorite, but I think it's reasonable to put them in the first tier of suitors. The Indians are into quantitiy over quality in recent trade returns, which the Cardinals match up well with, and they also have a penchant for trading for stars a year before free agency and trying to extend them
Goldschmidt is a good example of this kind of trade, and I could see that happening with Lindor, though I don't think that necessarily puts them literally first
Lindor
Wouldn't my contract demands take me out of the Cards plans? Cards extended Goldy for 5 years $130M. I am probably looking at twice that as the starting point no?

Ben Clemens
Certainly possible. Thta's why they aren't my favorites to land him
You could see them focusing on Lindor because so many of their contracts fall off next year
Carpenter has a vesting option he won't likely hit
Fowler and Miller will be gone
Carlos Martinez has a club option that probably won't get exercised
If they want to sign Lindor and also don't want to exceed, say, 2019's high payroll, they easily still can
Jeff
Do the Cardinals actually have anyone to trade for Lindor? Is Cleveland really bowled over by like...Tommy Edman?

Ben Clemens
I think that if the Indians are still doing the many-prospect return thing, sure
Like, look what they got back for Mike Clevinger
35 interesting but not overwhelming names
Do the Indians turn down, say, Knizner, Tyler O'Neill, and maybe Johan Oviedo? They might
But if they're willing to shop for quantity, and they seem to be, the Cardinals consistently hvae a lot of okay prospects

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