Tyler O’Neill, Two-True-Outcome King

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Big Amoco Sign wrote:
June 10 21, 2:32 am
Grichuk has had a low key nice career. And he’s an OF. And Grichuk is the closest comp. He has the same speed and defense tools and K/BB. And slugging ability.
And Grichuk was drafted ahead of Trout.

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O’Neill is a natural contact hitter, so his walk rate is likely never going to be very high. But if he could get to around what Arenado’s walk rate is and lower his K rate to under 30%, he could be an elite hitter. His barreled ball rate has always been head turning, so if he can build on that while improving his plate discipline, he could really turn the corner from good to great.

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If he hits his HR's any further, he'll have time to walk around the bases before they land.

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Patience Paying Off For Cardinals And Their All-Around StatCast Star, Tyler O’Neill.

For the last three-plus years, the Cardinals have invested vast amounts of patience, hope, and confidence in Tyler O’Neill.

Along the way chairman Bill DeWitt Jr., president of baseball operations John Mozeliak, GM Michael Girsch and the organization’s analytics department probably invested in vast amounts of antacids, headache pills and various elixirs as they watched the strikeouts, the injuries, the strikeouts, the the injuries, the strikeouts and demotions to Triple A Memphis.

O’Neill displayed enough power, speed and corner-outfield defense to keep management tantalized. But the O’Neill Show has been a tease and a test for the mesmerized baseball staff at Busch Stadium.

Not that the Cardinals expected an immediate breakout when they acquired O’Neill from Seattle in July 2017 for starting pitcher Marco Gonzales. Still, the ups and downs had prompted questions.

In parts of three seasons (2018-2020) with the Cardinals, O’Neill batted .229 with .291 onbase percentage, .422 slugging percentage, a 713 OPS, and a strikeout rate of 34 percent.

There had to be at least some doubts about O’Neill’s plate discipline, erratic contact rate, and all of the whiffs and walks back to the dugout. To its credit, Cardinals management has remained undeterred in the commitment to staying with O’Neill.

The venture appears to be paying off.

Fingers crossed, of course.

Despite having to pause for two stints on the 10-day IL already this season, O’Neill’s offensive numbers continue to erupt and rise. The massive power has materialized, and it’s substantive.

In 160 plate appearances this season O’Neill has muscled his way onto the hitter’s leaderboard. He’s also playing spectacular defense in left field and zooms around the bases with sprinter’s speed. He has five stolen bases, has saved three runs defensively in left field, and is a plus 7 in net baserunning gain.

As of Thursday morning, here’s the O’Neill report. Here’s where he ranks in the National League among hitters that have at least 160 plate appearances:

Tied for first in the NL with Jesse Winker for highest slugging percentage, .649.
2nd in the NL to Fernando Tatis Jr. in Isolated Power.
4th in the NL with 15 homers, trailing Ronald Acuna Jr. (18), Winker (17) and Tatis (17.)
10th in the NL in batting average (.291) 6th in OPS (.974.)
Fifth in park-and-league adjusted runs created at 64 percent above league average offensively.
21st in RBI, with 32. And keep in mind that his at-bats total isn’t as large as the many players that haven’t been slowed by IL visits.

The O’Neill strikeout rate for the season is still high, at 33.7%. But two things about that: (1) no one should stress over an elevated strikeout rate when a guy is consistently powering up for home runs and doubles. And (2) the strikeout rate has been going down; it’s around 30 percent since O’Neill returned from the IL (the first time) on April 23.

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What a running back he could be. At 5'11", low to the ground with power and speed OMG!

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Carter Le Grand wrote:
June 10 21, 8:10 pm
What a running back he could be. At 5'11", low to the ground with power and speed OMG!
Or a slot receiver. At least as fast as the defensive backs, and takes a linebacker to tackle him.

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redbirdjazzz wrote:
June 11 21, 6:54 am
Carter Le Grand wrote:
June 10 21, 8:10 pm
What a running back he could be. At 5'11", low to the ground with power and speed OMG!
Or a slot receiver. At least as fast as the defensive backs, and takes a linebacker to tackle him.
Still rather see him punishing baseballs.

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Tyler O'Neil can play the violin.. with a piano.

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MinorLeagueGuy wrote:
June 11 21, 7:29 am
redbirdjazzz wrote:
June 11 21, 6:54 am
Carter Le Grand wrote:
June 10 21, 8:10 pm
What a running back he could be. At 5'11", low to the ground with power and speed OMG!
Or a slot receiver. At least as fast as the defensive backs, and takes a linebacker to tackle him.
Still rather see him punishing baseballs.
Oh, I agree 100%.

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