but he only cheated 1 time or 6 or 7 timesJocephus wrote: ↑June 15 21, 1:10 pmwho is a rampant cheater and should be punished 10 games with payJedibaracuda wrote: ↑June 15 21, 1:06 pmDon’t forget Dakota Hudson, who we lost before the season even started.Popeye_Card wrote: ↑June 15 21, 12:47 pmWhile Flaherty, Kim, and Mikolas are out - this might be the worst rotation the Cardinals have had since the mid-90's. They would struggle to go 15-5 vs. AA teams, much less MLB clubs. I'll be happy if we can go .500.
Sad that our healthiest starter over the last 2 years is a 40 year old.
20 games to right the ship
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Jocephus wrote: ↑June 15 21, 1:10 pmwho is a rampant cheater and should be punished 10 games with payJedibaracuda wrote: ↑June 15 21, 1:06 pmDon’t forget Dakota Hudson, who we lost before the season even started.Popeye_Card wrote: ↑June 15 21, 12:47 pmWhile Flaherty, Kim, and Mikolas are out - this might be the worst rotation the Cardinals have had since the mid-90's. They would struggle to go 15-5 vs. AA teams, much less MLB clubs. I'll be happy if we can go .500.
Sad that our healthiest starter over the last 2 years is a 40 year old.
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technically not cheating until 6/21
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1994 was worse somehow (shortened season also).SunnyJim wrote: ↑June 15 21, 12:59 pm1995 Starting StaffPopeye_Card wrote: ↑June 15 21, 12:47 pmthis might be the worst rotation the Cardinals have had since the mid-90's.
Mark Petkovsek
Allan Watson
Donovan Osborne
Ken Hill
Mike Morgan
And...FA bust Danny Jackson
Let's really hear it for possible the worst Cardinal starting staff EVERRRRRR!
Somehow Tom Henke managed to get 36 saves.
Damn that 2007 starting rotation was awful too.
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Ha! I was 13 in 1995 and the only guy I can remember from that rotation is Donovan Osborne, and that's only because he hit a grand slam that one time and me and my friend went nuts running all over the house in celebration.SunnyJim wrote: ↑June 15 21, 12:59 pm1995 Starting StaffPopeye_Card wrote: ↑June 15 21, 12:47 pmthis might be the worst rotation the Cardinals have had since the mid-90's.
Mark Petkovsek
Allan Watson
Donovan Osborne
Ken Hill
Mike Morgan
And...FA bust Danny Jackson
Let's really hear it for possible the worst Cardinal starting staff EVERRRRRR!
Somehow Tom Henke managed to get 36 saves.
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didn't mike morgan give up one of hte "big" mcgwire homers in 98?
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I LOVED Ken Hill. Nasty forkball.G. Keenan wrote: ↑June 15 21, 1:29 pmHa! I was 13 in 1995 and the only guy I can remember from that rotation is Donovan Osborne, and that's only because he hit a grand slam that one time and me and my friend went nuts running all over the house in celebration.SunnyJim wrote: ↑June 15 21, 12:59 pm1995 Starting StaffPopeye_Card wrote: ↑June 15 21, 12:47 pmthis might be the worst rotation the Cardinals have had since the mid-90's.
Mark Petkovsek
Allan Watson
Donovan Osborne
Ken Hill
Mike Morgan
And...FA bust Danny Jackson
Let's really hear it for possible the worst Cardinal starting staff EVERRRRRR!
Somehow Tom Henke managed to get 36 saves.
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I was at that game with my dad and a friend when I was 10. We had nosebleed seats, but went to the field to get autographs. Nobody ever kicked us out so we ended up sitting in the green seats maybe three rows from the field.G. Keenan wrote: ↑June 15 21, 1:29 pmHa! I was 13 in 1995 and the only guy I can remember from that rotation is Donovan Osborne, and that's only because he hit a grand slam that one time and me and my friend went nuts running all over the house in celebration.SunnyJim wrote: ↑June 15 21, 12:59 pm1995 Starting StaffPopeye_Card wrote: ↑June 15 21, 12:47 pmthis might be the worst rotation the Cardinals have had since the mid-90's.
Mark Petkovsek
Allan Watson
Donovan Osborne
Ken Hill
Mike Morgan
And...FA bust Danny Jackson
Let's really hear it for possible the worst Cardinal starting staff EVERRRRRR!
Somehow Tom Henke managed to get 36 saves.
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Isn't this forbidden in Leviticus? It might explain the divine wrath visited upon that rotation.MrCrowesGarden wrote: ↑June 15 21, 1:36 pmI was at that game with my dad and a friend when I was 10. We had nosebleed seats, but went to the field to get autographs. Nobody ever kicked us out so we ended up sitting in the green seats maybe three rows from the field.G. Keenan wrote: ↑June 15 21, 1:29 pmHa! I was 13 in 1995 and the only guy I can remember from that rotation is Donovan Osborne, and that's only because he hit a grand slam that one time and me and my friend went nuts running all over the house in celebration.SunnyJim wrote: ↑June 15 21, 12:59 pm1995 Starting StaffPopeye_Card wrote: ↑June 15 21, 12:47 pmthis might be the worst rotation the Cardinals have had since the mid-90's.
Mark Petkovsek
Allan Watson
Donovan Osborne
Ken Hill
Mike Morgan
And...FA bust Danny Jackson
Let's really hear it for possible the worst Cardinal starting staff EVERRRRRR!
Somehow Tom Henke managed to get 36 saves.
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All of the staffs mentioned were really bad, but at least had guys who finished with an ERA+ >100. Out of the guys starting right now (minus Kim's return), I think Wainwright would be the only one I would give a >25% chance of breaking 100 over a full season.
The 2007 reference did make me have to remember Kip Wells. Now *that* was a bad offseason - when the marquis signings were Kip Wells and Adam Kennedy.
The 2007 reference did make me have to remember Kip Wells. Now *that* was a bad offseason - when the marquis signings were Kip Wells and Adam Kennedy.