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Re: 20 games to right the ship

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Jocephus wrote:
June 15 21, 1:10 pm
Jedibaracuda wrote:
June 15 21, 1:06 pm
Popeye_Card wrote:
June 15 21, 12:47 pm
While Flaherty, Kim, and Mikolas are out - this might be the worst rotation the Cardinals have had since the mid-90's. They would struggle to go 15-5 vs. AA teams, much less MLB clubs. I'll be happy if we can go .500.
Don’t forget Dakota Hudson, who we lost before the season even started.

Sad that our healthiest starter over the last 2 years is a 40 year old.
who is a rampant cheater and should be punished 10 games with pay
but he only cheated 1 time or 6 or 7 times

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Re: 20 games to right the ship

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Jocephus wrote:
June 15 21, 1:10 pm
Jedibaracuda wrote:
June 15 21, 1:06 pm
Popeye_Card wrote:
June 15 21, 12:47 pm
While Flaherty, Kim, and Mikolas are out - this might be the worst rotation the Cardinals have had since the mid-90's. They would struggle to go 15-5 vs. AA teams, much less MLB clubs. I'll be happy if we can go .500.
Don’t forget Dakota Hudson, who we lost before the season even started.

Sad that our healthiest starter over the last 2 years is a 40 year old.
who is a rampant cheater and should be punished 10 games with pay

They all cheat

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Re: 20 games to right the ship

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technically not cheating until 6/21

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Re: 20 games to right the ship

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SunnyJim wrote:
June 15 21, 12:59 pm
Popeye_Card wrote:
June 15 21, 12:47 pm
this might be the worst rotation the Cardinals have had since the mid-90's.
1995 Starting Staff

Mark Petkovsek
Allan Watson
Donovan Osborne
Ken Hill
Mike Morgan
And...FA bust Danny Jackson

Let's really hear it for possible the worst Cardinal starting staff EVERRRRRR!

Somehow Tom Henke managed to get 36 saves.
1994 was worse somehow (shortened season also).

Damn that 2007 starting rotation was awful too.

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Re: 20 games to right the ship

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SunnyJim wrote:
June 15 21, 12:59 pm
Popeye_Card wrote:
June 15 21, 12:47 pm
this might be the worst rotation the Cardinals have had since the mid-90's.
1995 Starting Staff

Mark Petkovsek
Allan Watson
Donovan Osborne
Ken Hill
Mike Morgan
And...FA bust Danny Jackson

Let's really hear it for possible the worst Cardinal starting staff EVERRRRRR!

Somehow Tom Henke managed to get 36 saves.
Ha! I was 13 in 1995 and the only guy I can remember from that rotation is Donovan Osborne, and that's only because he hit a grand slam that one time and me and my friend went nuts running all over the house in celebration.

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Re: 20 games to right the ship

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didn't mike morgan give up one of hte "big" mcgwire homers in 98?

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Re: 20 games to right the ship

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G. Keenan wrote:
June 15 21, 1:29 pm
SunnyJim wrote:
June 15 21, 12:59 pm
Popeye_Card wrote:
June 15 21, 12:47 pm
this might be the worst rotation the Cardinals have had since the mid-90's.
1995 Starting Staff

Mark Petkovsek
Allan Watson
Donovan Osborne
Ken Hill
Mike Morgan
And...FA bust Danny Jackson

Let's really hear it for possible the worst Cardinal starting staff EVERRRRRR!

Somehow Tom Henke managed to get 36 saves.
Ha! I was 13 in 1995 and the only guy I can remember from that rotation is Donovan Osborne, and that's only because he hit a grand slam that one time and me and my friend went nuts running all over the house in celebration.
I LOVED Ken Hill. Nasty forkball.

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Re: 20 games to right the ship

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G. Keenan wrote:
June 15 21, 1:29 pm
SunnyJim wrote:
June 15 21, 12:59 pm
Popeye_Card wrote:
June 15 21, 12:47 pm
this might be the worst rotation the Cardinals have had since the mid-90's.
1995 Starting Staff

Mark Petkovsek
Allan Watson
Donovan Osborne
Ken Hill
Mike Morgan
And...FA bust Danny Jackson

Let's really hear it for possible the worst Cardinal starting staff EVERRRRRR!

Somehow Tom Henke managed to get 36 saves.
Ha! I was 13 in 1995 and the only guy I can remember from that rotation is Donovan Osborne, and that's only because he hit a grand slam that one time and me and my friend went nuts running all over the house in celebration.
I was at that game with my dad and a friend when I was 10. We had nosebleed seats, but went to the field to get autographs. Nobody ever kicked us out so we ended up sitting in the green seats maybe three rows from the field.

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Re: 20 games to right the ship

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MrCrowesGarden wrote:
June 15 21, 1:36 pm
G. Keenan wrote:
June 15 21, 1:29 pm
SunnyJim wrote:
June 15 21, 12:59 pm
Popeye_Card wrote:
June 15 21, 12:47 pm
this might be the worst rotation the Cardinals have had since the mid-90's.
1995 Starting Staff

Mark Petkovsek
Allan Watson
Donovan Osborne
Ken Hill
Mike Morgan
And...FA bust Danny Jackson

Let's really hear it for possible the worst Cardinal starting staff EVERRRRRR!

Somehow Tom Henke managed to get 36 saves.
Ha! I was 13 in 1995 and the only guy I can remember from that rotation is Donovan Osborne, and that's only because he hit a grand slam that one time and me and my friend went nuts running all over the house in celebration.
I was at that game with my dad and a friend when I was 10. We had nosebleed seats, but went to the field to get autographs. Nobody ever kicked us out so we ended up sitting in the green seats maybe three rows from the field.
Isn't this forbidden in Leviticus? It might explain the divine wrath visited upon that rotation.

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Re: 20 games to right the ship

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All of the staffs mentioned were really bad, but at least had guys who finished with an ERA+ >100. Out of the guys starting right now (minus Kim's return), I think Wainwright would be the only one I would give a >25% chance of breaking 100 over a full season.

The 2007 reference did make me have to remember Kip Wells. Now *that* was a bad offseason - when the marquis signings were Kip Wells and Adam Kennedy.

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